Overgaard Posted August 17, 2016 Share #1 Posted August 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've finished my third article in the guide of five articles on focusing the Leica M. It's the 44th page in my Leica M user report! Pre-vision of the Final Image - Focusing the Leica M - Part 3/5 Manual Focus with the Leica EVF-2 Electronic ViewFinder Enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 Hi Overgaard, Take a look here Guide on how to focus EVF on Leica M (at overgaard.dk). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Giulio Zanni Posted August 17, 2016 Share #2 Posted August 17, 2016 Thank you Thorsten, I really enjoyed the part on the EVF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkR440 Posted August 17, 2016 Share #3 Posted August 17, 2016 I sometimes have the feeling when I use the EVF with a lens wide open (for example the 90mm APO at f2) that the range that should be in focus referring to the in red highlighted area is a bid bigger/wider that the area that is actually focused when I look at the picture on a big screen. Anybody else experienced that kind of issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrycym Posted August 17, 2016 Share #4 Posted August 17, 2016 Big thanks from me too. My Olmpus VF-2 I ordered from eBay turned up today. Works well with my eBay 21mm SEM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 18, 2016 Share #5 Posted August 18, 2016 Hey Thorsten! Really enjoyed that one. BTW, do not set the preview to 1 second, set it to "hold rel. button". That way it will revert to the active EVF readout as soon as the camera finishes processing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share #6 Posted August 18, 2016 I sometimes have the feeling when I use the EVF with a lens wide open (for example the 90mm APO at f2) that the range that should be in focus referring to the in red highlighted area is a bid bigger/wider that the area that is actually focused when I look at the picture on a big screen. Anybody else experienced that kind of issue? Yes, you are not the only one who have said that. I think looking at the image and not the red outline is right. Especially with wide angle lenses, the red outline turns on further behind and inf front of what is actually really in focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 18, 2016 Share #7 Posted August 18, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) That is indeed the case, and the reason that Leica has chosen such a subtle setting of the peaking. The more obvious ( I would say intrusive) it gets, the less accurate it is. I once tried to photograph a herd of Zebra with a Sony and the whole EVF turned red. I find that Leica's peaking works by far the best with long lenses and macro, less so with medium focal ranges, which is quite logical within the concept of the camera. After all, it has the rangefinder for that use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkR440 Posted August 18, 2016 Share #8 Posted August 18, 2016 It would be nice if there would be a setting in the camera to adjust the sensitivity of the focus peaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 18, 2016 Share #9 Posted August 18, 2016 Even if they did it would remain a bit dodgy. Sony has three settings, and the long lens/zebra red-out happened at the lowest setting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted August 18, 2016 Share #10 Posted August 18, 2016 I agree. Peaking is not a reliable way to focus in LV. It is very approximate. Even with different levels of peaking, sharp lenses will peak too much, and softer lenses will show none. Areas of high contrast like zebra lines will show false results too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 18, 2016 Share #11 Posted August 18, 2016 well, on the Leica it is pretty good as soon as you get beyond 150 mm with a contrasty lens - by then it is useful too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Root Posted August 18, 2016 Share #12 Posted August 18, 2016 Live View is not a viable solution with the M240 due to having to open the aperture manually to achieve high contrast--it is a labor intensive calisthenic required for critical focus. Furthermore, the lack of an electronic first curtain in the M240 requires the opening and closing of the focal plane shutter twice which causes a delay in taking the picture and unnecessary additional shutter slap. The manual apertures of Leica M series lenses fundamentally excludes Live View as a viable solution for Leica M cameras in the future, which is probably why the Leica engineers have patented an electronic range finder that is not through the lens, not off the sensor, and therefore not affected by the aperture setting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted August 18, 2016 Share #13 Posted August 18, 2016 Is "Overboard.dk" in the thread's title a typo or spell checker error by any chance, Thorsten? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 18, 2016 Share #14 Posted August 18, 2016 Live View is not a viable solution with the M240 due to having to open the aperture manually to achieve high contrast--it is a labor intensive calisthenic required for critical focus. Furthermore, the lack of an electronic first curtain in the M240 requires the opening and closing of the focal plane shutter twice which causes a delay in taking the picture and unnecessary additional shutter slap. The manual apertures of Leica M series lenses fundamentally excludes Live View as a viable solution for Leica M cameras in the future, which is probably why the Leica engineers have patented an electronic range finder that is not through the lens, not off the sensor, and therefore not affected by the aperture setting. As I said - conceived for long lenses and macro (and wideangles, but who cares about focus stopped down then ) In the case of long lenses, one will be using full aperture, or nearly so, anyway, for macro it is usually tripod work. That virtually eliminates this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share #15 Posted August 19, 2016 Is "Overboard.dk" in the thread's title a typo or spell checker error by any chance, Thorsten? Pete. Maybe a freudian slip ... I was supposed to go sailing this week but plans changed. But no, not intentionally :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 19, 2016 Share #16 Posted August 19, 2016 I took pity on you and corrected the title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted August 19, 2016 Share #17 Posted August 19, 2016 some useful info & valuable tips on using the evf, as always. thank you, Thorsten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenf Posted August 19, 2016 Share #18 Posted August 19, 2016 Live View is not a viable solution with the M240 due to having to open the aperture manually to achieve high contrast--it is a labor intensive calisthenic required for critical focus. Furthermore, the lack of an electronic first curtain in the M240 requires the opening and closing of the focal plane shutter twice which causes a delay in taking the picture and unnecessary additional shutter slap. The manual apertures of Leica M series lenses fundamentally excludes Live View as a viable solution for Leica M cameras in the future, which is probably why the Leica engineers have patented an electronic range finder that is not through the lens, not off the sensor, and therefore not affected by the aperture setting. Wow - I guess I need to stop using my EVF on the M-P, then. Thanks for showing me the light! ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted August 19, 2016 Share #19 Posted August 19, 2016 Thanks, very helpful article. What a difference having the EVF in 'b&w' makes. I have always struggled to see the focus peeking lines, but in this mode they light up very well. A revelation! Brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 20, 2016 Share #20 Posted August 20, 2016 Hi Thorsten. That pesky pedant again! The first time Stephan Daniel was talking about EVF's was NOT in 2010 at the LSHA meeting. It was at a much more significant time.: The meeting of Leica Forum members in Solms in mid-2009 when he dropped the bombshell of the discontinuation of the R series. At that meeting he went into the assessment of the quality of EVFs by Leica and he took a quick survey of the interest in EVFs by the members present. It was a clear indication of Leica's route map for future systems other than the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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