FlashGordonPhotography Posted August 17, 2016 Share #21 Posted August 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nikon AIS 200mm f4 with a dumb adaptor? Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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helged Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share #22 Posted August 17, 2016 Weight and size may or may not matter. For this thread, weight and size do matter. Of course, one can bring tons of gear (with the help of frends or assistants or sherpas) if needed, but that's something else... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted August 17, 2016 Share #23 Posted August 17, 2016 Nikon AIS 200mm f4 with a dumb adaptor? Hmm. I don't recall the Nikkor 200mm f/4 AI-S as being smaller than the Elmar-R 180mm f4, and I know it was certainly not a nice on its rendering qualities. I always found the various Nikkor 135 and 200mm lenses, with the exception of the Micro-Nikkor 200mm f/4 ED-IF AI-S, to be somewhat less than stellar quality, in marked contrast to the excellent 105s and 180s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvaliquette Posted August 17, 2016 Share #24 Posted August 17, 2016 Highlight mine.... Not for hikers who drill toothbrush handle to save backpack weight. Jayant, I hadn't heard that one before. Do you really do that? Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted August 17, 2016 Share #25 Posted August 17, 2016 Jayant, I hadn't heard that one before. Do you really do that? Guy It was a joke for "ultralight" backpacking group. I do have friends who cut off the toothbrush handle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share #26 Posted August 17, 2016 Do you really do that? Guy Absolutely (not talking about myself, though). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted August 17, 2016 Share #27 Posted August 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Do you really do that? Guy Yes, climbers are especially famous for that trick. Today the sawed-off toothbrush is useful, along with cans of shaving cream that hold only 2.5 ounces and toothpaste tubes that are good for only three nights, in order to survive medium length business trips with only carry-on luggage. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted August 17, 2016 Share #28 Posted August 17, 2016 Hmm. I don't recall the Nikkor 200mm f/4 AI-S as being smaller than the Elmar-R 180mm f4, and I know it was certainly not a nice on its rendering qualities. I always found the various Nikkor 135 and 200mm lenses, with the exception of the Micro-Nikkor 200mm f/4 ED-IF AI-S, to be somewhat less than stellar quality, in marked contrast to the excellent 105s and 180s. Possibly not but it's cheap and widely available. The OP mentioned less frequent use and no need for ultimate IQ so I think it's an option that, based on the criteria presented, could be considered. Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted August 17, 2016 Share #29 Posted August 17, 2016 If ultimate IQ is not needed then Zuiko 75-150 f/4 zoom is hard to beat. It is under 1lb and with less than $40 price tag, you don't lose much if it is not to your liking. I own this and have used it with M240 with nice results. It may not be "hidden gem" but certainly performs many times better than $40. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iduna Posted August 18, 2016 Share #30 Posted August 18, 2016 just an idea what I do if I do not want to carry much. R-Elmarit 90 mm + APO Adapter 2x. I do have also Telyt 250 and R 180 which I all love but find too heavy to carry along. My solution are Mamiya lenses. They are excellent and are lightweights in comparison to all other lenses. You can enjoy the cropfactor as well! A prime lens or a zoom are not at all expensive and can be found available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted August 25, 2016 Share #31 Posted August 25, 2016 This discussion about saving weight brought me back to an old lens, the Elmarit-R 28 (V1). It is the smallest and lightest lens in the R department. (only 275g) (http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/28mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_I) This discussion made me try it again after 20 years, and comparing it to the Nikon lenses (prime and zooms) I have been using in the meantime. And also to the M 28 I typically use on my SL. What a surprise - it turned out to be a "killer". For the typical subjects you photograph on a walk or tour - landscape/seascape, trees, groups of persons, cars, boats, ships, houses - it gave great results. Very vibrant colors, lots and lots of details, not the typical ugly contorted faces near borders and corners or just to a small degree. I noticed especially the nicer, richer colors than I get with many modern lenses. Regarding test charts it is not a great lens. But in practice it is. I cannot really explain it. (Just that I did not take pictures of test charts. And no close-ups, as 28mm is not really a good choice for that. And used it mainly at 5.6 or slower apertures.) Regarding its small weight and size it could be worth a try. (for backpackers and others) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRJohn Posted August 25, 2016 Share #32 Posted August 25, 2016 I would take the M Apo 135/3.4 - I realize this is 10% short of your specifications. Can you take a 10% hit on your specs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share #33 Posted August 25, 2016 Too close to 90 macro-elmar, but could be a substitute for the 90. Voigtlander 180mm Lanthar seems interesting, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 25, 2016 Share #34 Posted August 25, 2016 I wonder how many of these impressions of weight come from people who spend the greatest part of their life at a desk, staring at a monitor - a kind of abstract existence. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted August 25, 2016 Share #35 Posted August 25, 2016 Maybe not at a desk, but staring on a phone display (or some sort of pad). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted August 26, 2016 Share #36 Posted August 26, 2016 When size and even more so weight really matter, my Leica gear stays home an 1 or 2 Sigma Merrills are in my bag. I understand this is not an answer to your question. But every gram matters on serious hikes above 3000m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share #37 Posted August 26, 2016 Yes, point taken. Im not (anymore) doing expeditions and/or extreme hiking/climbing. But I do love photography and hiking, and I do (mostly) manage to bring with me a 21(SEM) and a 90(Macro-Elmar). And sometimes, I may compliment with, for instance, the Voigtlander 180/f4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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