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same here indeed.

 

I had the same problem up to now
 
now I think I found a workaround:
 
reset file numbering (file nr.will be 001)
take a picture (was in 100LEICA)
 
reset file numbering (file nr will be 001)
take a picture (was in 101LEICA)
 
reset file numbering (file nr will be 001)
take a picture (was in 102LEICA)
 
and so on
 
(I had about 6000 pictures with V1 up to now, my order nr was 106LEICA. After several steps, like mentioned above, I now have folder 107LEICA, and file nr is now set to L1070001, all is ok)
 
when you hit PLAY (and perhaps additionally the set button) you will see the incremented folder nr. within the file nr.

 

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I'm really happy to see yet another software update for the Q.

However, the improvements are not transformative.

Q users have generated long wishlists on various fora and many of those wishes remain unfulfilled.

I think the Q is very good but the best is yet to be.

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I need a little advice. I've done the upgrade and it mostly works fine. I have verified that version 2.0 is installed. My problem is that I cannot get the Picture Mode/Video Lock to function. When I select "off," pushing the red button records video. When I select "on," it still records video. It will not disable. Any suggestions?

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I need a little advice. I've done the upgrade and it mostly works fine. I have verified that version 2.0 is installed. My problem is that I cannot get the Picture Mode/Video Lock to function. When I select "off," pushing the red button records video. When I select "on," it still records video. It will not disable. Any suggestions?

 

 

If you are in display mode for video (accessible from clicking the SET button until you see the video icon at the top) then the video button is active even if locked.

In any other display modes, it will be locked.

Looks smart to me.

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I'm really happy to see yet another software update for the Q.

However, the improvements are not transformative.

Q users have generated long wishlists on various fora and many of those wishes remain unfulfilled.

I think the Q is very good but the best is yet to be.

 

I agree, but is still much better behavior than most other brands. Leica issues regular updates and actually listens to their users.

 

That the 2.0 Q update does only address a couple of wishes (presumably the most frequently stated and/or easiest to implement) must have a reason. Apart from the fact that it is not always a good idea to change a lot in a single update, I think that another cause could be the fact that Leica has only a limited capacity as far as software engineering is concerned (it could even be outsourced?), and they have to divide their attention over updates and fixes for multiple models and new designs.

 

So while I agree that that is more to be wished for, and things could have been done better (such as EVF extended), this is already much more than I have ever seen from, lets say, Nikon.

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How about the long exposure for high iso ?

120 s is limited to ISO 100, 60 s at ISO 200, 30 s at SO 400, 15 s at ISO 800 (that was also possible with Firmware 1.1)...

 

Somewhat disapointing,  only a mininal improvment, especially if ISO 100 has still the banding problem (someone has to check this !), so underexposer and correction in the raw converter is not a goog option.

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120 s is limited to ISO 100, 60 s at ISO 200, 30 s at SO 400, 15 s at ISO 800 (that was also possible with Firmware 1.1)...

 

Somewhat disapointing,  only a mininal improvment, especially if ISO 100 has still the banding problem (someone has to check this !), so underexposer and correction in the raw converter is not a goog option.

p.s. my impresssion, ISO 200 gives better results than ISO 100, there is still some banding at ISO 100. So if you are interested in long exposure of very dark scenes, ISO 200 is the better choice although the exposure time is limited to 60 s, while ISO 100 allows 120 s exposure

 

 

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So good to see that a number of members have figured out how to operate the new features. Some of them really puzzled me, such as the focus point size adjustment using the delete key + wheel. Thanks a lot!

 

But it also makes me wonder if there really is no manual addendum somewhere that describes these things, or are we really expected to find all of this out ourselves? The user manual is dated 22/7/2016 but has not been updated. I find that a bit "cheap" for a company such as Leica. Mind you, I own other brands and not many of them behave any better, but Leica...

 

Anyone know of a useful "how to" description of the new features ?

 

I agree with you about the addendum and ridiculous Manual update.

Perhaps an updated Manual will come out with update 2.0 in time for the next update!

 

They should follow Fuji's example, together with the update and updating instructions, they release a pdf addendum for the existing manual explaining how to get at the changes to the firmware and there effect. You can print this off at the same size as the manual and it can be slipped inside.

 

Luckily we have Forum members to sort out the mess.

The update has improved the camera for myself but I would like to see a removal of the video play screen when video is disabled in the menu. I like that we still get 35mm/50mm frame lines even when saving in raw only.

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The update has improved the camera for myself but I would like to see a removal of the video play screen when video is disabled in the menu.

 

I agree with you about the video option, this is problematic and not well thought through. If I use the Q "from the hip", I somehow still find myself ending up recording video in stead of photos now and then. Not that often, but when it happens, it is a bl**dy nuisance.

 

Simply put: there is no need at all for a dedicated record button. For the Q this means: when in video preview screen, the shutter release could be used. Introduce a menu option to disable video and the corresponding preview.

 

This leaves us with a second FN button! I would like press + wheel = focus mode, but more options should be introduced.

 

Other brands and cameras show this flaw as well. (The Nikon D810 has a dedicated button as well, but that can be reprogrammed, in my case as ISO. I can set aperture, shutter speed and ISO (and focus location) with my right hand without taking my eye from the viewfinder. My left hand is completely free. In video mode, the button still works as record, but I would rather have that assigned to the shutter release. Same thing really, but Nikon already has the reprogram option for this button)

 

I wrote in a previous post that I would use video on the Q (occasionally) if only it had full manual exposure control. This is an absolute minimum requirement for any video shooting. it would allow for some "quick and dirty" video shooting with just the Q in your pack.

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p.s. my impresssion, ISO 200 gives better results than ISO 100, there is still some banding at ISO 100. So if you are interested in long exposure of very dark scenes, ISO 200 is the better choice although the exposure time is limited to 60 s, while ISO 100 allows 120 s exposure

 

 

Thomas

 

Interesting, this could be a sign that base ISO is at 200. I believe the shutter times are limited because of heat production in the sensor. Also, the hotter the sensor, the more noise and other artifacts. So longer exposure at ISO 100 could indeed be more problematic than half the time at ISO 200 because of that. If heat buildup is a real problem, longer exposure times can be more or less self defeating. This may also mean that longer exposure times will never be available on the Q.

 

That said, I have not used the Q for very dark scenes (yet), 10 secs probably being the longest exposure time and then only once; I use another camera for that purpose.

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Interesting, this could be a sign that base ISO is at 200. I believe the shutter times are limited because of heat production in the sensor. Also, the hotter the sensor, the more noise and other artifacts. So longer exposure at ISO 100 could indeed be more problematic than half the time at ISO 200 because of that. If heat buildup is a real problem, longer exposure times can be more or less self defeating. This may also mean that longer exposure times will never be available on the Q.

 

That said, I have not used the Q for very dark scenes (yet), 10 secs probably being the longest exposure time and then only once; I use another camera for that purpose.

What I do not understand, the Leica SL using the same or at least a very similar sensor allows now with the new firmware 30 minutes (!) exposure, so why is Leica limiting the Q to 60 s for ISO 200?

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What I do not understand, the Leica SL using the same or at least a very similar sensor allows now with the new firmware 30 minutes (!) exposure, so why is Leica limiting the Q to 60 s for ISO 200?

 

Good question. Limiting exposure time is not something that pleases users, as is shown here in the forum right away. So there has to be a good reason to do it. This more or less shows that the sensor (or the way it is used) is not the same as in the SL. This is just an educated guess, though. And in practical terms, it does not get us any nearer to what we want...

 

My guess would be that longer exposure times would only dramatically increase noise and banding in the Q. This is probably not something that Leica likes to see demonstrated for any of their cameras. But we could of course keep asking for it and see what happens.

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What I do not understand, the Leica SL using the same or at least a very similar sensor allows now with the new firmware 30 minutes (!) exposure, so why is Leica limiting the Q to 60 s for ISO 200?

 

 

If the issue is heat a physically bigger camera has room for a larger heat sink to keep the sensor cool.

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After the V2.0 upgrade I have a weird thing happening.

 

Could a fellow Q use check this please.

 

1. Press and hold down the FN button on the left of the LCD.

 

2. Arrow down and select "User Profile". Let go of the FN button.

 

3. Press the FN button once and select "Profile 1". Profile 1 is now selected.

 

4. Now press the FN button again and is the "User Profile" still selected or some other profile?

 

Mine reverts to the "Exp.Comp/Flash Exp. Comp/Exp. Bracket" once a profile has been selected.

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After the V2.0 upgrade I have a weird thing happening.

 

Could a fellow Q use check this please.

 

1. Press and hold down the FN button on the left of the LCD.

 

2. Arrow down and select "User Profile". Let go of the FN button.

 

3. Press the FN button once and select "Profile 1". Profile 1 is now selected.

 

4. Now press the FN button again and is the "User Profile" still selected or some other profile?

 

Mine reverts to the "Exp.Comp/Flash Exp. Comp/Exp. Bracket" once a profile has been selected.

 

I think I was too quick to post, but I can now safely confirm a couple of things:

  • The currently selected profile is not shown when pressing FN. The selection rectangle is always on the default profile and there is no indicator as to which profile is selected whatsoever. the profile icons next to the rectangle are rendered slightly lighter, but this does not mean anything, as this moves along with the selection rectangle.
  • The FN function does correctly select the profile, this can be confirmed using the menu. It is impossible, however, to select the default profile using the FN function.
  • Programming the FN button as profile selector is correctly saved to a profile (you have to "save as profile" after setting the FN function, of course), it does not revert to "exp. comp..."  etc, it does this only for the default profile.

So, yes, the FN function seems to be lacking two things: displaying the currently selected profile and the ability to select the default profile. It would be much better to at least show the currently selected profile using FN. It does, however, what is promised: it selects a profile.

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After the V2.0 upgrade I have a weird thing happening.

 

Could a fellow Q use check this please.

 

1. Press and hold down the FN button on the left of the LCD.

 

2. Arrow down and select "User Profile". Let go of the FN button.

 

3. Press the FN button once and select "Profile 1". Profile 1 is now selected.

 

4. Now press the FN button again and is the "User Profile" still selected or some other profile?

 

Mine reverts to the "Exp.Comp/Flash Exp. Comp/Exp. Bracket" once a profile has been selected.

You probably had "exp.comp..." function for FN etc stored in profile 1. If you want to change that, store the new FN function in profile 1, before selecting that.  I think you should try this:

  1. Press and hold down FN and select "User Profile", let go of FN button
  2. Using the menu, go to "User profile", select "Save as", and save as profile 1
  3. Press FN and select profile 1
  4. Press FN again, it will still show the user profile selection. (this does not show the currently selected profile however)
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