rob_x2004 Posted June 12, 2007 Share #21 Posted June 12, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) But, the rewind knob never rotates first two or three shots. Depends on the film you are using and the number of frames on the roll. It seems silly not to "rewind" the slack out of the can so that you see the film is advancing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eniketh Posted June 13, 2007 Share #22 Posted June 13, 2007 In addition to all of the above, you might try making two small accordian folds (crimps) to the first 1.5 cm of the film leader. This seems to grab hold of the film sprocket more effectively. I picked this up from a forum thread a year or two ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 13, 2007 Share #23 Posted June 13, 2007 Im a bit am pm about the fold, it still has to drag back across the pressure plate shutter curtain gap on rewind, and I am sure whether it makes no difference at all when the film leader is inserted adequately into the pick up spool. Maybe the kink doesnt make the difference in itself, but just ensures you insert the film properly? Dunno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artorius Posted June 13, 2007 Share #24 Posted June 13, 2007 I guess this is why I still keep the M3. I have never missed a roll with the M6, but with the M3 I KNOW the it's advancing, I pay extra attention with the M6 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan c. davis Posted June 13, 2007 Share #25 Posted June 13, 2007 When I bought a new M6 a few months back and having heard all the horror stories about loading problems, I sat down with the manual and just carefully followed the instructions. A piece of cake. But I was bought up on manual cameras and the golden rule allways was, " if the rewind knob is turning, she's a goer". In more than 30 years I've never lost a film by just following that simple rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted June 13, 2007 Share #26 Posted June 13, 2007 My last film SLR is a Contax 167 (sorry, Zeiss lens ). One just drops a film in and some small Japanese robot will thread it in. Despite this perfection, I haven't used it for years but took the Olympus XA instead, although it is more difficult to load and operate. The only 35mm camera I have used in the last two years or so is the M3. Sorry, this is just the M way, there are lots of things which can go wrong, so one better does things properly. This effort is excused by the result when everything is done correctly. I find perfection boring and M's genially quaint. However I don't expect everyone to agree. Zen or the art of loading a Leica M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 13, 2007 Share #27 Posted June 13, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Remember grasshopper...You must stand on only one leg beneath the waterfall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bastian A. Posted June 14, 2007 Share #28 Posted June 14, 2007 if you are used to the leica film loading system it is as easy as every other camera. after 3 films at least. i have never had any problems loading my m6 ttl and m2 (which has an older system). b. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 14, 2007 Share #29 Posted June 14, 2007 .... and the old delicious Leica SM ? You had NO visible access to the sprockets... THAT was really difficult sometimes... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted June 16, 2007 Share #30 Posted June 16, 2007 I thought it might be a good idea to share some images how I load my M3. More recent M's will look slightly different (fixed camera spool, different winding) but the principle remains the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted June 16, 2007 Share #31 Posted June 16, 2007 1. The end of the film should be pushed under the strap at least until it shows under all dots of the arrow. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26273-loading-film-probs/?do=findComment&comment=282890'>More sharing options...
StS Posted June 16, 2007 Share #32 Posted June 16, 2007 2. The spooling direction of the camera spool is reverse to the direction of the cartridge spool. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26273-loading-film-probs/?do=findComment&comment=282891'>More sharing options...
StS Posted June 16, 2007 Share #33 Posted June 16, 2007 3. Both spools should be put in the camera as shown. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26273-loading-film-probs/?do=findComment&comment=282894'>More sharing options...
StS Posted June 16, 2007 Share #34 Posted June 16, 2007 4. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26273-loading-film-probs/?do=findComment&comment=282895'>More sharing options...
StS Posted June 16, 2007 Share #35 Posted June 16, 2007 5. The camera spool should be pushed down until it snaps in its transport shaft. Both spools should look as shown in their final position. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26273-loading-film-probs/?do=findComment&comment=282896'>More sharing options...
StS Posted June 16, 2007 Share #36 Posted June 16, 2007 6. The film should be advanced until the sprocket holes of the film align with the transport sprocket. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26273-loading-film-probs/?do=findComment&comment=282897'>More sharing options...
StS Posted June 16, 2007 Share #37 Posted June 16, 2007 7. The winder can be pulled out and turned to tighten the film. The inner shaft (marked with a off-centre red dot) should turn when the film is advanced. To be on the safe side, I ‘waste’ image 1 too (I rarely use all exposures of a roll anyhow). I don’t have the ambition to get 38 images from a 36 image roll Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26273-loading-film-probs/?do=findComment&comment=282898'>More sharing options...
StS Posted June 16, 2007 Share #38 Posted June 16, 2007 This is it. There might be better ways to load a M3, however it has worked for me so far. I left out the opening and closing of the camera but can add this at request. Cheers Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted June 16, 2007 Share #39 Posted June 16, 2007 Thank you for proving my point Stefan. The Leica M loading system is primitive. By the time you Leica M film loading experts remove the bottom plate and find some where to put it. I have opened and placed my film roll home and closed door on my Leica R's. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted June 17, 2007 Share #40 Posted June 17, 2007 Which model ditched the take up separate take up spool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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