Mauribix Posted June 9, 2007 Share #1 Posted June 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi folks, It's up to you the responsibility for my next lens: What 90mm would you buy for your M8?and why? I owned a 2nd version tele elmarit made in canada (which i sold 'cause of its low sharpness) and i used to have an Elmar-c 90mm made in germany which was super in any situation (excluding for its F4 aperture of course).Detail and contrast were fantastic comparing it to the tele elmarit. But now, I sold both. Now, what would you do? Thankd to you all.... Samples are well considered Maurizio Beucci MAURIZIO BEUCCI.com - Official web site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cme4brain Posted June 9, 2007 Share #2 Posted June 9, 2007 Hi folks,It's up to you the responsibility for my next lens: What 90mm would you buy for your M8?and why? I owned a 2nd version tele elmarit made in canada (which i sold 'cause of its low sharpness) and i used to have an Elmar-c 90mm made in germany which was super in any situation (excluding for its F4 aperture of course).Detail and contrast were fantastic comparing it to the tele elmarit. But now, I sold both. Now, what would you do? Thankd to you all.... Samples are well considered Maurizio Beucci MAURIZIO BEUCCI.com - Official web site Sean Reid is testing the 90mm lenses now, wait for his article! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted June 9, 2007 Share #3 Posted June 9, 2007 The 90mm APO ASPH works very well with the M8. Probably the best 90mm in the M range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lensblur Posted June 9, 2007 Share #4 Posted June 9, 2007 Yeh, I would choose the Apo f/2 but I already have the 90 f/2.8, which works well and is lighter. It's not front heavy like Apo, but it is not apo and not f/2. I have never used the Macro version, but from what I have read on the forum, it's quiet interesting also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinb Posted June 9, 2007 Share #5 Posted June 9, 2007 The current version 90mm elmarit is very very good. Maybe almost too sharp for portraits. I have a type 1 Tele-Elmarit and like it's compact size. It should be good wide open for portraits too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scho Posted June 9, 2007 Share #6 Posted June 9, 2007 The CV 90/3.5 APO Lanthar is also a very sharp lens. Example Image Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorflow Posted June 9, 2007 Share #7 Posted June 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 90mm APO ASPH works very well with the M8. Probably the best 90mm in the M range. I find my APO 90 very difficult to focus accurately at f2 from about 12 feet in. Anyone else has the same experience? Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucek Posted June 9, 2007 Share #8 Posted June 9, 2007 I find my APO 90 very difficult to focus accurately at f2 from about 12 feet in. Anyone else has the same experience? Alan Try adding a 1.25X magnifier. It makes a world of difference! Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted June 9, 2007 Share #9 Posted June 9, 2007 Here are a couple from the 90mm APO Summicron-M. These were taken in January, just after I got my M8. Both were at f2. This one is near the close focus limit. I have since bought my son a new helmet. I don't know where the cover went on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted June 9, 2007 Share #10 Posted June 9, 2007 Here is a 90mm APO Summicron-M shot from a few days ago using the more recent firmware and a B+W UV-IR filter. I think I was shooting at f4 or 5.6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philippe D. Posted June 9, 2007 Share #11 Posted June 9, 2007 The 90mm APO ASPH works very well with the M8. Probably the best 90mm in the M range.Yes !+1 and the x1.25 magnifier, great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andit Posted June 9, 2007 Share #12 Posted June 9, 2007 Hi Maurizio, If you're looking for a 90mm that is really sharp, and not that expensive, try the new Leica 90mm f/4.0 Macro Elmar. Ok, it's only f/4 but you have the option of doing macro work with the optional adaptor. Guy Mancuso, here on the site, has done some incredible work with this lens and has posted many examples. I'm very satisfied with this lens. Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted June 9, 2007 Share #13 Posted June 9, 2007 The 90 Cron (pre-Apo Asph) actually looks slightly sharper at f/5.6 on the MTFs. Could that be? Wide open the Apo walks all over the older model though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted June 9, 2007 Share #14 Posted June 9, 2007 I have a collapsible 90/4 Elmar purchased used around 1970, which works smoothly and is unscratched, but has some spots of dirt or fungus that would have to be cleaned to put it back in service. Has anyone experience with those classics to draw on, to help me decide whether it is worth the CLA cost to make it usable? I can check the KEH prices for a comparable unit, but I am curious to know how they draw compared to the later 90's, and how sharp they are compared to the macro-90. Sean, are you including an antique-90 in your testing? scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted June 9, 2007 Share #15 Posted June 9, 2007 Hi Maurizio, If you're looking for a 90mm that is really sharp, and not that expensive, try the new Leica 90mm f/4.0 Macro Elmar. Ok, it's only f/4 but you have the option of doing macro work with the optional adaptor. Guy Mancuso, here on the site, has done some incredible work with this lens and has posted many examples. I'm very satisfied with this lens. Andreas Thanks Andreas, I really love this little gem. I'm actually afraid to compare it to the 90 Apo. LOL That's how good it is, if I did not need the speed of the cron than I would have second thoughts on keeping it, although they do have a little different character. But if speed is not the issue and you add the adapter to it , you get a great macro setup plus a general purpose lens in a small package at a fairly reasonable price. The 90mm 2.8 elmarit is also a very nice lens . the test is really between the 3 modern 90's. Elmarit/ Cron and macro. the cron would beat them all but my bet is it would be very close. Honestly i just don't think there are any bad ones between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 9, 2007 Share #16 Posted June 9, 2007 I have got to like my current version Elmarit-M 2.8 a lot. At first it did not seem that sharp but I found I needed to use slightly higher shutter speeds than I thought. First because of course it is an effective 120mm on the M8 and secondly as many of us have found, the M8 is very critical on sharp focus (I now use the 1.25x magnifier) and if like me you have rather arthritic and not particularly strong or steady hands - camera shake. I don't think I could manage a 90 Summicron at all, due to the weight/length ratio - I find the Noctilux a bit of a struggle. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teehas53 Posted June 9, 2007 Share #17 Posted June 9, 2007 I went for the Elmarit (latest version) mainly due to size and weight. No complaints at all on its performance. The CV 90 is also excellent, though a bit slower. That said, I don't hesitate to shoot with it wide open, and the results are great. I can't get my head around these big, fast short-teles on a compact rangefinder camera. I guess they look really cool, but are problematic to work with in a couple of important ways. The 'Cron may be marginally better in some respects, but not by enough (for me) to offset the large, front-heavy form factor. I prefer my small, light camera to be, well, small and light... YMMV. T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 9, 2007 Share #18 Posted June 9, 2007 I have a collapsible 90/4 Elmar purchased used around 1970, which works smoothly and is unscratched, but has some spots of dirt or fungus that would have to be cleaned to put it back in service. Has anyone experience with those classics to draw on, to help me decide whether it is worth the CLA cost to make it usable? I can check the KEH prices for a comparable unit, but I am curious to know how they draw compared to the later 90's, and how sharp they are compared to the macro-90. Sean, are you including an antique-90 in your testing? scott Not yet...I still need to finish the shift lenses and 35s. I spent most of last week out of state helping out a friend who is ill and so I need to get those two articles done this coming week. Then the 90s will move to front burner. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Hatcher Posted June 9, 2007 Share #19 Posted June 9, 2007 90 pre-APO Summicron (my choice for hunting dangerous animals in the jungle): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/26264-best-90mm-on-m8/?do=findComment&comment=277274'>More sharing options...
lensblur Posted June 10, 2007 Share #20 Posted June 10, 2007 Another pet shot by 90 f/2 pre Apo, with an M6. I like the kind of blur that this lens can produce. This is scanned a couple of years ago from a 10-year old slide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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