chris_tribble Posted June 29, 2016 Share #21 Posted June 29, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Erl - lovely shots + it reminds us of the huge flexibility that digital has given us. I did a lot of work in the 2000s with Neopan 1600 negative film as it was the best I could get. But when I look back at the scans I'm SO glad that digital came along. It meant that I dropped Leica for a long time as soon as the Canon 20D came out (moving onto 1 and then 5 series bodies). The advent of the M8 meant I could come back to working with RF camera's again - a great relief, but it needed the M9 and M240 for things to be more fully worked out. If the M240 replacement has a better performing EVF I may even go back to using the 90 and 135 more regularly for performance work - though AF with long focal length lenses is SO helpful...As a trip down memory lane, some shots that were used for the same sorts of poster from 2004... A mix of Leica M6TTL and Canon 1v (what a lovely camera that was!) All of the film would have been scanned with a Coolscan 4000 ED (which I still have and which still works with Windows 10 after a bit of juggling with drivers...) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262080-concert-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3070344'>More sharing options...
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ECohen Posted June 29, 2016 Share #22 Posted June 29, 2016 When I first saw this topic I thought ....Leica for concerts ? DSLR is the way to go..........I shot concerts in the 70's and 80's manual with Nikon's wides to the great 180mm f/2.8 .....Ektachrome pushed to 800 ASA and 800 then we considered fine. Todays M is amazing compared to what we "had" to do then. The more I think about it ....the more I can say Leica with its great IQ is the way to go ....as long as your close.It blows away the film era......and them there is RAW/Post The examples posted on the thread are amazing....Also I believe I saw some concert shots on Thorsten Overgaards sight......you might look there as well as he's a wealth of great accurate Leica info. The only thing I take issue with is ....ear plugs for Rock and Roll??....seriously ............but thats probably why my high frequencies are gone...at 61 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 29, 2016 Share #23 Posted June 29, 2016 Couldn't resist posting this. I have just walked in the door from shooting Romeo & Juliet (from the audience this time). I was in the very back row of the dress circle. Equipment I used was Sony A7S with Leica 75mm Cron. 8000ISO, 1/640th @ f4. The beauty of the Sony is the totally silent shutter setting so I don't disturb the person next to me. The image quality is fantastic. The image I posted is full frame with only levels adjusted. A total of 230+ images shot. This is just a 'going to bed' effort. Night all. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262080-concert-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3070475'>More sharing options...
Echo63 Posted June 29, 2016 Share #24 Posted June 29, 2016 The only thing I take issue with is ....ear plugs for Rock and Roll??....seriously ............but thats probably why my high frequencies are gone...at 61 If i was in the audience, i would agree but being squished in amongst the speakers, i will stick with the earplugs thanks. having ringing ears the next day isn't much fun. at least the earplugs are Surefire EPs - they sound much better than the foam earplugs. earplugs designed for music are on the list of things to get though, looking at Etymotic earplugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted June 29, 2016 Share #25 Posted June 29, 2016 If i was in the audience, i would agree but being squished in amongst the speakers, i will stick with the earplugs thanks. having ringing ears the next day isn't much fun. at least the earplugs are Surefire EPs - they sound much better than the foam earplugs. earplugs designed for music are on the list of things to get though, looking at Etymotic earplugs. I was only kidding...plugs are a very smart/wise idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregm61 Posted June 29, 2016 Share #26 Posted June 29, 2016 The few concerts I have attended, I'm not sure I could have gotten ANY camera by security. Those of you who have or have special access, I congratulate. Getting cameras into concert/sporting events is a very hit and miss proposal anymore for the normal human being. Often being turned away is a real issue if your vehicle is not close enough to walk it back and put in the trunk so I just don't even bother trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted June 29, 2016 Share #27 Posted June 29, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) The few concerts I have attended, I'm not sure I could have gotten ANY camera by security. Those of you who have or have special access, I congratulate. Getting cameras into concert/sporting events is a very hit and miss proposal anymore for the normal human being. Often being turned away is a real issue if your vehicle is not close enough to walk it back and put in the trunk so I just don't even bother trying. Step 1 is to negotiate agreement with the artist's management + the concert hall. You'll get nowhere if you don't do this. It's surprising how cooperative artists can be. If it's not a commissioned shoot, I'll often make an agreement where I let artists use images free-of-charge to artists for personal promotion with an agreement that if there's a paid use (press / record label / commercial promotion) then normal fees apply. This has worked well - it means you build portfolio and reputation (which leads to paid work) and get fee income from commercial use of the images. Of course, you retain copyright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted June 29, 2016 Share #28 Posted June 29, 2016 Here is James Levine's last performance at the Met... I used a MP240 with 90mm f/2 wide open and hand held... Albert Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262080-concert-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3070575'>More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted June 29, 2016 Share #29 Posted June 29, 2016 here is another... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262080-concert-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3070576'>More sharing options...
ECohen Posted June 29, 2016 Share #30 Posted June 29, 2016 The few concerts I have attended, I'm not sure I could have gotten ANY camera by security. Those of you who have or have special access, I congratulate. Getting cameras into concert/sporting events is a very hit and miss proposal anymore for the normal human being. Often being turned away is a real issue if your vehicle is not close enough to walk it back and put in the trunk so I just don't even bother trying. 70's and 80 were a different time ....I had access but .....even when I didn't no one cared it you took pictures...It was before the internet and a different time. Ever been to a Grateful Dead show?....the first 20 rows everyone has professional audio recording equipment...the band even supplied A/C you could plug into from the stage. "The times they are a changin"....RIP Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo63 Posted June 29, 2016 Share #31 Posted June 29, 2016 I was only kidding...plugs are a very smart/wise ideaI know Its amazing how much louder the speakers seem when you are close enough to lean on them though. And having photographed both Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus twice - there is no sound system on earth that can compete with the high pitched scream of an arena full of teenaged girls. The few concerts I have attended, I'm not sure I could have gotten ANY camera by security. Those of you who have or have special access, I congratulate. Getting cameras into concert/sporting events is a very hit and miss proposal anymore for the normal human being. Often being turned away is a real issue if your vehicle is not close enough to walk it back and put in the trunk so I just don't even bother trying. much better to just sit back and enjoy the show...... I have been to a lot of sporting events and seen a lot of bands play (work organizes the appropriate accreditation, pass or access) Couldnt tell you much about any of them, because i spent them focused on my job, looking through a viewfinder or at a laptop. I do have a big box of passes though - everything from ACDC to ZZ Top ! (Ok, maybe not everything, but i have photographed them both) sporting events include soccer, rugby, AFL football, basketball, netball, rallying and circuit racing. Maybe that could be a thread - show us your passes ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 29, 2016 Share #32 Posted June 29, 2016 A 50 1.4 ASPH can handle tricky lighting well I think, as the 35 can Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! . Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! . ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262080-concert-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3070656'>More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 29, 2016 Share #33 Posted June 29, 2016 But sometimes the 75s needed, and it also deals with odd, low, mixed lighting quite nicely. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262080-concert-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3070660'>More sharing options...
Peter H Posted June 29, 2016 Share #34 Posted June 29, 2016 And finally, I think you sometimes just need to accept that odd lighting is all part of the atmosphere, and embrace it... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262080-concert-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3070670'>More sharing options...
markforce Posted June 29, 2016 Share #35 Posted June 29, 2016 On stage -- literally -- with M246 and 21 Super Elmar. Loved every bit of it (the gigs, and the shooting experience, as well as some of the results indeed). My first concert was shot with the M9 which worked surprisingly well also. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262080-concert-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3070711'>More sharing options...
ECohen Posted June 29, 2016 Share #36 Posted June 29, 2016 On stage -- literally -- with M246 and 21 Super Elmar. Loved every bit of it (the gigs, and the shooting experience, as well as some of the results indeed). My first concert was shot with the M9 which worked surprisingly well also. Outstanding! special access is nice......just curious whats your ISO?.....any Post? ... a guess is fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markforce Posted June 29, 2016 Share #37 Posted June 29, 2016 Outstanding! special access is nice......just curious whats your ISO?.....any Post? ... a guess is fine Thanks! Both were shot at 10'000 ISO and speeds of 125 or 180 or something and the lens at 3.4. Hardly touched them in post, a few slight adjustments around the edges so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted June 29, 2016 Share #38 Posted June 29, 2016 The few concerts I have attended, I'm not sure I could have gotten ANY camera by security. Those of you who have or have special access, I congratulate. Getting cameras into concert/sporting events is a very hit and miss proposal anymore for the normal human being. Often being turned away is a real issue if your vehicle is not close enough to walk it back and put in the trunk so I just don't even bother trying. I'm usually there as an invitee: photographs in exchange for a seat of my choice. I agree, rehearsals are the best for access, but rehearsals for classical concerts are usually in casual dress unless, as has occasionally happened, they've been asked to dress for the photographer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted June 29, 2016 Share #39 Posted June 29, 2016 I'm usually there as an invitee: photographs in exchange for a seat of my choice. I agree, rehearsals are the best for access, but rehearsals for classical concerts are usually in casual dress unless, as has occasionally happened, they've been asked to dress for the photographer. When I was engaged to shoot classic concert rehearsals, I insisted on it being full dress or I would not shoot. It would have been a waste of my time and their money. I only ever had one argument about it, with the conductor. I gestured to the main office and said, "let us ask the big man in there. He is paying us both for a performance". Needless to say it resulted in a 'full dress' occasion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted June 30, 2016 Share #40 Posted June 30, 2016 I have used the m8, m9 and m240 for stage work every year for the last 8 years or so. The work I do requires the use of long lenses as there are several stages I have to shoot where I cannot get close to the action. I do ok. I did find the M240 with higher usable ISO and liveview more usable- but got great shots before that too. Unlike others i don't have too many issues using my 135- and I really need that length. Here's a few samples: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/262080-concert-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3070854'>More sharing options...
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