Leica SL or Hasselblad X1D

[Jeff S]

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Where is it? (at Luminous Landscape)

 

With an extra 6 months warranty for folks who pre-ordered and had to wait.

 

Jeff

[Guest]

Fair enough.

[Peter H]

Where is it? (at Luminous Landscape)

Thanks for that link.

 

Everything that he reports is 100% consistent with what I was told by the technical director at the demonstration in October, including the shipment dates.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Made my mind up already

 

 

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[EoinC]

Not for men!

That depends on whether one's wallet is connected to one's nervous system.

[ramarren]

Sometimes I look at my lens usage and what I actually shoot, and then I think of selling everything, I mean everything, and buying just the X1D and all three lenses. I'd only need one bag, one tripod, and could carry everything with me all the time. As few decisions as possible... 

 

Yeah. It's a pipe dream. 

[Peter H]

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Sometimes I look at my lens usage and what I actually shoot, and then I think of selling everything, I mean everything, and buying just the X1D and all three lenses. I'd only need one bag, one tripod, and could carry everything with me all the time. As few decisions as possible...

 

Yeah. It's a pipe dream.

I'm seriously considering doing it.

[Belle123]

I'm seriously considering doing it.

Hold off. I considered letting go of several M lenses to get the X1D but decided not. Keeping all. Will wait to see just how much I like it first. I doubt will part with my M246......but time will tell. If I had just the M240, that I could part with.

[Joshua Lowe]

Sometimes I look at my lens usage and what I actually shoot, and then I think of selling everything, I mean everything, and buying just the X1D and all three lenses. I'd only need one bag, one tripod, and could carry everything with me all the time. As few decisions as possible... 

 

Yeah. It's a pipe dream. 

 

Couldn't you do this with any camera, though?  Put together a 3 lens kit and a body and you're done.

[Jeff S]

I've been doing it with an M for the last 9 years.

 

Only now considering adding something better suited for a couple of wider/longer lenses.

 

Simpler life in retirement.....more pics, less gear fuss....and no more darkrooms.

 

Jeff

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

I've been doing it with an M for the last 9 years.

 

Only now considering adding something better suited for a couple of wider/longer lenses.

 

Simpler life in retirement.....more pics, less gear fuss....and no more darkrooms.

 

Jeff

 

Jeff

Where do you post your pictures......do you have a website??

 

Neil

[Jeff S]

Jeff

Where do you post your pictures......do you have a website??

 

Neil

 

I make prints.  But I did develop a site this year for instances when I exhibit them, or to share with friends/family.

 

Jeff

[meerec]

Sometimes I look at my lens usage and what I actually shoot, and then I think of selling everything, I mean everything, and buying just the X1D and all three lenses. I'd only need one bag, one tripod, and could carry everything with me all the time. As few decisions as possible... 

 

Yeah. It's a pipe dream. 

I considered just that. However ...

 

I had a chance to shoot with the X1D last week and re-considered it.

 

Love my M lenses on SL and look forward to the summicron-SL 75. The Leica platform gives me so much joy right now. In comparison, the X1D felt very much unfinished and only in its infancy. As a creative tool, and results I'm getting consistently with the SL surprise me and continue to exceed my expectations. The SL's EVF pales everything else in comparison. I also considered availability of the X1D in Australia // there will be two (2) only units shipped in February, I'm better off waiting another year or more, perhaps for X2D before considering that platform again.

[ramarren]

I considered just that. However ...

 

... The Leica platform gives me so much joy right now. ... 

 

Exactly. Although I wouldn't call it "the Leica platform" ... I'd just call it "Leica cameras and lenses". The SL, the M-D, and a modest set out of the interesting SL, R, M, and Voigtländer lenses I have are simply very satisfying to use and produce very satisfying results. 

 

In answer to a previous query: yes, it could be done with almost any particular body and specific set of three lenses—as long as its the right body and the right lenses. Once upon a time, it was a Leica CL with 40, 90, and 21mm lenses. At another juncture, a Pentax DSLR with 21, 43, and 77mm lenses. At yet another, ... well, you get the drift. 

 

I'm not a minimalist although I tend to drift that way. 

[Vieri]

Exactly. Although I wouldn't call it "the Leica platform" ... I'd just call it "Leica cameras and lenses". The SL, the M-D, and a modest set out of the interesting SL, R, M, and Voigtländer lenses I have are simply very satisfying to use and produce very satisfying results. 

 

In answer to a previous query: yes, it could be done with almost any particular body and specific set of three lenses—as long as its the right body and the right lenses. Once upon a time, it was a Leica CL with 40, 90, and 21mm lenses. At another juncture, a Pentax DSLR with 21, 43, and 77mm lenses. At yet another, ... well, you get the drift. 

 

I'm not a minimalist although I tend to drift that way. 

 

Perhaps calling it the "Leica system" would be better than "platform", but to me Leica cameras and lenses definitely are a system: Leica's offer of different types of cameras and lenses (from APS-C to FF to MF, rangefinder and mirrorless, etc) and the cross-compatibility between them is exceptional, as well as the capability of using other manufacturer's lenses. All this, IMHO, makes for a system not just a bunch of cameras and lenses

 

Best,

 

Vieri

[Peter H]

I've always liked the idea of "my camera".

 

By which I mean owning only one camera.

 

I'm increasingly convinced that from a creative point of view (in my opinion too many of you consider the word "artistic" to be pretentious) one camera, any one camera, is superior to a selection of cameras and a range of lenses.

 

I must put my theory into practice before it's too late to discover whether I'm right.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

I've always liked the idea of "my camera".

 

By which I mean owning only one camera.

 

I'm increasingly convinced that from a creative point of view (in my opinion too many of you consider the word "artistic" to be pretentious) one camera, any one camera, is superior to a selection of cameras and a range of lenses.

 

I must put my theory into practice before it's too late to discover whether I'm right.

Peter

I respect your opinion but I begg to differ. You see in the real world there are just to many different kinds of photography that one camera can't fit all. Example I like shooting birds, half naked women and landscapes. Each of these subjects require a different tool. I wish there was one tool out there that could fit all purposes but for me I don't see it. For me going forward I'm going to stick with what I have got. If the X1D turns out to be the real dogs bollocks then I would probably sell my S gear and get a X1D as I like the idea of compactness. My bird photography will always require a large 600mm f4 plus professional DSLR. My landscape right now is LeicavS or my newlyweds purchased SL...... yet to see the outcome of the files yet but on the back of the LCD they look nice. For studio the Leica S works great even though my lighting needs some/much improvement.

I think the X1D will get most but not all scenarios.

[Chaemono]

The choice between "one 50MP camera" with a proprietary lens system and an SL with a 28/1.4, 50/0.95, 50 Apo Cron, 50 Lux-SL plus a couple of terrific zooms is an easy one for me.

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

The choice between "one 50MP camera" with a proprietary lens system and an SL with a 28/1.4, 50/0.95, 50 Apo Cron, 50 Lux-SL plus a couple of terrific zooms is an easy one for me.

go on I can't stand the suspense........ which one are you going for........ whichever one it is make sure it's in the 50mm range.......... lol

 

Neil

 

 

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[Peter H]

Peter

I respect your opinion but I begg to differ. You see in the real world there are just to many different kinds of photography that one camera can't fit all. Example I like shooting birds, half naked women and landscapes. Each of these subjects require a different tool. I wish there was one tool out there that could fit all purposes but for me I don't see it. For me going forward I'm going to stick with what I have got. If the X1D turns out to be the real dogs bollocks then I would probably sell my S gear and get a X1D as I like the idea of compactness. My bird photography will always require a large 600mm f4 plus professional DSLR. My landscape right now is LeicavS or my newlyweds purchased SL...... yet to see the outcome of the files yet but on the back of the LCD they look nice. For studio the Leica S works great even though my lighting needs some/much improvement.

I think the X1D will get most but not all scenarios.

Neil, I enjoy looking at your photos and you'd be daft to try and cover all the styles and subjects you like with just one camera and a couple of lenses. What you do works for you so no need to change. But we're all different, obviously. I'm not suggesting what might work for me should work for you. 

 

 

The choice between "one 50MP camera" with a proprietary lens system and an SL with a 28/1.4, 50/0.95, 50 Apo Cron, 50 Lux-SL plus a couple of terrific zooms is an easy one for me.

 

That's great for you, and it's good that there's such a versatile camera as the SL to give you what you want.

 

I want something very different, and it's exactly that "wide range of lenses, a different one for every occasion" approach that I'm trying to get away from. It's a personal choice.

Edited December 15, 2016 by Peter H