Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 2, 2016 Share #401 Posted October 2, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have recently had some time to use a CFV-50c back (on loan, courtesy of Hasselblad UK) with my 503cw, so I have a good idea of the kind of file quality I can expect of the X1D. How is it???? I watched the Matt Gringer youtube about it and he was in two minds as to if he would want to buy one or not. I got excited about getting one until I found out it wasn't a 4x4 digital back :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Ash Posted October 2, 2016 Share #402 Posted October 2, 2016 I was flirting with the idea of buying the X1D. After I have seen the huge print of the SL at Photokina I was reconfirmed that 35mm is more then good enough for my needs. When life donates me with that mind blowing loft with infinite walls I might reconsider. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted October 2, 2016 Share #403 Posted October 2, 2016 How is it???? I watched the Matt Gringer youtube about it and he was in two minds as to if he would want to buy one or not. I got excited about getting one until I found out it wasn't a 4x4 digital back :( Leica S Typ 007 = 45mm x 30mm (7,500 x 5,000 @ 6um) Hasselblad CFV-50c / X1D-50c / H6D-50c = 43.8mm x 32.9mm (8,272 x 6,200 @ 5.3um) Hasselblad H6D-100c = 53.0 x 40.0 (11,600 x 8,700 @ 4.6um) Leaf Credo 80MP = 53.7mm x 40.3mm (10.320 x 7,752 @ 5.2um) The standard commercial choices for getting to 4x4 remain the H6D=100c and the Leaf 80MP...and there's still another 20sqcm to get it to 6x6cm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 2, 2016 Share #404 Posted October 2, 2016 Leica S Typ 007 = 45mm x 30mm (7,500 x 5,000 @ 6um) Hasselblad CFV-50c / X1D-50c / H6D-50c = 43.8mm x 32.9mm (8,272 x 6,200 @ 5.3um) Hasselblad H6D-100c = 53.0 x 40.0 (11,600 x 8,700 @ 4.6um) Leaf Credo 80MP = 53.7mm x 40.3mm (10.320 x 7,752 @ 5.2um) The standard commercial choices for getting to 4x4 remain the H6D=100c and the Leaf 80MP...and there's still another 20sqcm to get it to 6x6cm Mat you lost me in all that maths............also I see my 6x6 is showing as a 4x4 and I don't recall typing 4x4. Anyway to cut a long story short, I would have jumped at the 50 CVO had it had a 6x6 sensor. I will stick with 120 film for now until that prototype 6x6 that they had on show at photokina becomes a reality :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted October 2, 2016 Share #405 Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) If you are thinking that the CFV-50c back is a digital replacement for an A12 film back on a V series camera, you are wandering up an expensive blind alley. It's a rather different proposition on something like a Cambo Wide. Edited October 2, 2016 by honcho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 2, 2016 Share #406 Posted October 2, 2016 I'm not looking to replace anything I already have the best[emoji106][emoji106] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #407 Posted October 2, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) but it's not MF and its ugly Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Factually Medium format is not versatile. Ugly is just your opinion. Is is subjective and not factual. After getting used to the clean looks of the SL, I think the rest of DSLR look outright ugly (my opinion). Btw, I do not think most medium format look good either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 2, 2016 Share #408 Posted October 2, 2016 Factually Medium format is not versatile. Ugly is just your opinion. Is is subjective and not factual. After getting used to the clean looks of the SL, I think the rest of DSLR look outright ugly (my opinion). Btw, I do not think most medium format look good either. But if you have to shoot full frame rather than MF at least get something that looks nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #409 Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) The Sony sensor is excellent. Better than the SL's. The SL's sensor is good enough but definitely not an advantage over these MF cameras. It may be good enough today for medium format std today but not so tomorrow. Certainly not distinctive. The 18MP CCD sensor on the M9 has no wow factor today, but hell is is distinctive. You don't find the same sensor on Sony, Nikon, Canon,... I choose FF as a choice camera system as a hobby due to my photography application requirements (I hate mounting camera on tripods and will only do so for landscape photography). I will only entertain thoughts to get a medium format camera with a wide angle lens purely for landscape photography. But again I strugle to carry more than one body on holiday trips. Edited October 2, 2016 by sillbeers15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #410 Posted October 2, 2016 I was flirting with the idea of buying the X1D. After I have seen the huge print of the SL at Photokina I was reconfirmed that 35mm is more then good enough for my needs. When life donates me with that mind blowing loft with infinite walls I might reconsider. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #411 Posted October 2, 2016 Approximately how large was the print at Photokina? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #412 Posted October 2, 2016 But if you have to shoot full frame rather than MF at least get something that looks nice What is nice for FF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 2, 2016 Share #413 Posted October 2, 2016 What is nice for FF? Leica M & Nikon D5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rriley Posted October 2, 2016 Share #414 Posted October 2, 2016 Leica S Typ 007 = 45mm x 30mm (7,500 x 5,000 @ 6um) Hasselblad CFV-50c / X1D-50c / H6D-50c = 43.8mm x 32.9mm (8,272 x 6,200 @ 5.3um) Hasselblad H6D-100c = 53.0 x 40.0 (11,600 x 8,700 @ 4.6um) Leaf Credo 80MP = 53.7mm x 40.3mm (10.320 x 7,752 @ 5.2um) The standard commercial choices for getting to 4x4 remain the H6D=100c and the Leaf 80MP...and there's still another 20sqcm to get it to 6x6cm I think the Phase One XF100 is the same as the Hasselblad H6D and you have access to the Schneider lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted October 2, 2016 Share #415 Posted October 2, 2016 Why would anyone would be interested in the X1D and not take an interest in the Fuji? I'm interested in going back to MF but couldn't justify the price of digital MF until the announcement of the Hasselblad and Fuji cameras. For the first 15 years of my photographic life I used MF only, and until 12 years ago it was still my preferred system alongside my film Ms until I went fully digital, so "full-frame" still feels small to me, though I love it for that reason. Can someone please explain why the Fuji shouldn't be taken seriously? I don't want to make a silly and expensive mistake. 1- I'm not fond of Fuji lenses. They are very sharp and contrasty but I've never really liked their color rendering or the out-of-focus rendering very much; this has been true for all Fuji MF and 35mm film and digital cameras that I've owned and used. I ended up selling every one of them relatively quickly because of it. 2- The Fuji's control design is of the "butt-load of buttons and dials" school and I haven't liked any of their cameras' menus either. I expect it will be a fine technical performer; it simply doesn't appeal to me at all. I'm looking for simplicity and ergonomics, and at most one or two lenses for an MF digital. My main system will continue to be the Leica SL. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted October 2, 2016 Share #416 Posted October 2, 2016 Approximately how large was the print at Photokina? I guess about 2 m in height. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted October 2, 2016 Share #417 Posted October 2, 2016 How is it???? I watched the Matt Gringer youtube about it and he was in two minds as to if he would want to buy one or not. I got excited about getting one until I found out it wasn't a 4x4 digital back :( I was seriously planning to buy a CFV-50c until I needed to replace my car ... sigh. I'd already done all the format calculations so I understood what I'd be getting with respect to FoV with all my lenses, had allocated the funds, etc. Then life happened again. I got a good settlement on my car, but the one I replaced it with is a bit newer, a bit nicer ... and about one CFV-50c more costly once I'm done setting it up. Oh well, I like the new car a lot. And I'll likely use it a lot more than any MF digital camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #418 Posted October 2, 2016 I guess about 2 m in height. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk If my math is correct, in landscape mode the print would be about 3 meters in length (landscape)? If you were pleased with the results, that's great to hear. I have a client making a 1.7 meter print (landscape), from one of my SL files shot at 1.4 with the 35 Summilux-M, 50asa. Very narrow focus in shade outside; camera on a tripod. She asked if the image would look good and of course I said it'd look great! Honestly, I didn't have any basis for my positive comment. A number of years ago, I had one of my M9 files (shot with the same lens), printed to 2.5 meters (landscape) for a lobby mural and it looked fantastic. Before pulling the trigger on the 'Blad, I'd rent from Lensrentals.com and run a side-by-side comparison against my SL. As great as the DR is on my SL, I'm guessing the DR will be better on the 'Blad. I will say having both of these cameras in my arsenal would be a great combination covering 95% of what I'd need to shoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meerec Posted October 2, 2016 Share #419 Posted October 2, 2016 So what car goes well with an SL and a HB? ;-) Oh well, I like the new car a lot. And I'll likely use it a lot more than any MF digital camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #420 Posted October 2, 2016 Leica M & Nikon D5 Leica M, I agree. D5 is UGLY. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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