pgk Posted June 20, 2016 Share #41 Â Posted June 20, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) ..... Â even then is it really seeable? Â Choices: 1. all lens & camera combinations are fine - its all down to PP 2. some lens & camera combinations produce different results from others 3. There is a Leica 'look' Difficult choice huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Hi pgk, Take a look here Does the Leica lens look appear most at a certain focal length?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
otto.f Posted June 20, 2016 Share #42 Â Posted June 20, 2016 4. Once upon a time there was a Leica look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 20, 2016 Share #43 Â Posted June 20, 2016 Lets be honest, with pre digital the camera/lens was a major part in the pursuit of an image, [... snip wisdom ...] Â Not the only consideration. It goes further. The camera lens certainly was important, but so were film/developer choices and enlarger specifications (condenser, diffusion) and lens choice: early Focotar lenses had a peculiar (IMHO very poor) quality. Â Today I still only scan prints, and I'm not very good at it, so take my words as FWIW. Your call. We are good. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 21, 2016 Share #44  Posted June 21, 2016 4. Once upon a time there was a Leica look  And still is if you care to look for it but its not ubiquitous throughout all Leica lenses cameras - see 1, 2 & 3 all of which are to some degree 'the correct answer' . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 21, 2016 Share #45 Â Posted June 21, 2016 Lets be honest, with pre digital the camera/lens was a major part in the pursuit of an image, D&P was the next very important step.... Nowadays with digital even a $99 P&S with the use of PP can offer up a very mouthwatering image.. When paying Leica prices (cameras & or lenses-new or used) we need/want our results to "show" something.. Â Over the internet & on most Forums the images seen have been huffed & puffed in so many ways - who can really tell? - It could be that Leica users put more thought & care into producing an image! it could be just the light, the settings & that moment in time that offers the "Leica" look! - Apart from my M-P240/35mm Summicron ASPH all my other Leicas are terrific and at times produce the "Look".. The M-P & Lens combo takes care and experience to produce a "Good" image, to produce the "Look" takes experience, knowledge and so much more care etc.. Â even then is it really seeable? Â With the current generation of sensors the variation in "look"of the image carrier is far, far less than the differences between various films. It is all down to the lens nowadays, more so than in pre-digital days, postprocessing being comparable to developing and darkroom printing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 21, 2016 Share #46 Â Posted June 21, 2016 Â With the current generation of sensors the variation in "look"of the image carrier is far, far less than the differences between various films. It is all down to the lens nowadays, more so than in pre-digital days, postprocessing being comparable to developing and darkroom printing. Â Interesting you should say that because I'm struggling to get my workflows consistent from a number of different cameras - even when using the same lenses! As you say, lens characteristics do show through though when shot appropriately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 21, 2016 Share #47 Â Posted June 21, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) And still is if you care to look for it but its not ubiquitous throughout all Leica lenses cameras - see 1, 2 & 3 all of which are to some degree 'the correct answer' . Â So it's not a common 'Leica look', rather it's a Noctilux look or an MM look or an APO Summicron look, which are all rather different from one another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 21, 2016 Share #48 Â Posted June 21, 2016 So it's not a common 'Leica look', rather it's a Noctilux look or an MM look or an APO Summicron look, which are all rather different from one another. Â See my post 26 - that's my theory but I stand to be corrected by scientific evidence to the contrary . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fursan Posted June 22, 2016 Share #49 Â Posted June 22, 2016 Could someone, anyone, please post an image taken with a Leica lens that they think has the ' Leica look '. Â I honestly want to see one. Having heard so much about it. Â Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted June 22, 2016 Share #50 Â Posted June 22, 2016 Without knowing what you are looking at when you look at forum posts, I'm afraid it will be impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 22, 2016 Share #51  Posted June 22, 2016 Maybe we should try to identify it :-)  Does this image have the Leica look?  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 22, 2016 Share #52 Â Posted June 22, 2016 Could someone, anyone, please post an image taken with a Leica lens that they think has the ' Leica look '. Â I honestly want to see one. Having heard so much about it. Â Thank you. Â Try:Â http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/261123-barnacks-monthly-for-june-2016-is-available-darkness/page-9 post 162 and look at the lights which show distortion characteristic of the pre-aspheric 25mm Summilux wide-open - its not the best example but it shows it. This was when produced a state of the art design and remains a very compact lens for its aperture even today. The characteristic 'flaws' in this lens at full aperture are just that and some like and some dislike them. Whether this is one of the 'Leica looks' is a question which is open. Its certainly a characteristic of this Leica designed lens and can be used to effect but isn't found on all Leica lenses so you'll have to make your own mind up whether you like it and whether its a 'Leica look' I'm afraid. Personally this is one of my favourite lenses for a whole host of reasons but I don't subscribe to a 'throughout the range Leica look' I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesL Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share #53 Â Posted June 22, 2016 Maybe we should try to identify it :-)Â Â Does this image have the Leica look? Â Thank you for an actual photo. The lens gives excellent resolution. It is probably not a Zeiss lens, but it might be. The camera could be a Fuji X, perhaps even a Sony mirrorless although less likely so. The notable quality is the resolution and the presentation of textures without the hyper sharpness of a Zeiss lens or a Sigma Foveon camera. Â Mainly, it does not look like a Nikon or Canon SLR photo. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 22, 2016 Share #54 Â Posted June 22, 2016 Could someone, anyone, please post an image taken with a Leica lens that they think has the ' Leica look '. Â Summilux 35mm, Version 2, wide open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 22, 2016 Share #55 Â Posted June 22, 2016 Mainly, it does not look like a Nikon or Canon SLR photo. Â Interesting analysis. I'm curious, why specifically does it not look like a Canikon image? Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 22, 2016 Share #56  Posted June 22, 2016 Could someone, anyone, please post an image taken with a Leica lens that they think has the ' Leica look '.  I honestly want to see one. Having heard so much about it.  Thank you.  On my zenfolio website you can find some. For instance this which has been made with the Summilux 75 on a MM1, as all others from the Dickens Festival, shows a delicious bo-keh.  http://lotwouda.zenfolio.com/p735541593/h6288dbbc#h66453ea0  or  http://lotwouda.zenfolio.com/p735541593/h669892d9#h669892d9  APO-Elmarit 180 R:  http://lotwouda.zenfolio.com/p58173128/h2829275b#h2829275b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 22, 2016 Share #57 Â Posted June 22, 2016 Here is one too http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/261863-waiting-for-the-train/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted June 22, 2016 Share #58  Posted June 22, 2016 Maybe we should try to identify it :-)  Does this image have the Leica look?   One would have to be fair skinned and blonde to carry off a green of that hue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted June 22, 2016 Share #59 Â Posted June 22, 2016 One would have to be fair skinned and blonde to carry off a green of that hue. Haha, I won't tell her :-) Â Â Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesL Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share #60 Â Posted June 22, 2016 Interesting analysis. I'm curious, why specifically does it not look like a Canikon image? Â Â I don't recall photos from them with the combination of such resolution, without hypersharpness, and the presentation of textures. Of course, you might have just shown us an example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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