rochus Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share #21 Posted May 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) The separators of the Hadley digital are much better for the Leica bag. It's possible to order a set directly from billingham. Edward, just checked the Billingham web shop, the Hadley digital dividers look pretty much like the once in my Billingham for Leica and there are no dimensions given to compare. Can you help me to understand what's the difference and what makes them better than the ones in the Billingham for Leica. Thanks a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 17, 2016 Posted May 17, 2016 Hi rochus, Take a look here M-D battery discharge as camera is not turning off automatically. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
menos I M6 Posted May 17, 2016 Share #22 Posted May 17, 2016 Perfect solution: Remove the the digital M multi selector mode switch - replace with stiff Leica M7 on/off switch, leave auto off in camera at "never" - all problems solved and further meaningfully simplified a cluttered feature bloat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDD Posted May 17, 2016 Share #23 Posted May 17, 2016 If only someone could build a device that could be attached to the back of the camera to allow you to see the settings, and change them as appropriate. Kind of like, you know, some sort of screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morry Posted May 17, 2016 Share #24 Posted May 17, 2016 https://www.streetphotographyblog.co.uk/leica-m-edition-60-the-street-photography-review/ This is saying M60 goes to sleep every 2 minutes so I have been thinking M-D would be same, but actually never ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted May 17, 2016 Share #25 Posted May 17, 2016 Edward, just checked the Billingham web shop, the Hadley digital dividers look pretty much like the once in my Billingham for Leica and there are no dimensions given to compare. Can you help me to understand what's the difference and what makes them better than the ones in the Billingham for Leica. Thanks a lot. The original separators are made of harder and stiffer material while the Hadley digital are made of soft velvety like material. They are also shorter so they make it easier to store the camera pointing downwards. What you describe used to happen with my M240, though no battery drain due to auto shutdown, but I often found the switch turned to on while in the bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochus Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share #26 Posted May 17, 2016 The original separators are made of harder and stiffer material while the Hadley digital are made of soft velvety like material. They are also shorter so they make it easier to store the camera pointing downwards. What you describe used to happen with my M240, though no battery drain due to auto shutdown, but I often found the switch turned to on while in the bag. Thanks Edward for the feedback, will try it out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochus Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share #27 Posted May 17, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) https://www.streetphotographyblog.co.uk/leica-m-edition-60-the-street-photography-review/ This is saying M60 goes to sleep every 2 minutes so I have been thinking M-D would be same, but actually never ??? No, never sleeps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 17, 2016 Share #28 Posted May 17, 2016 https://www.streetphotographyblog.co.uk/leica-m-edition-60-the-street-photography-review/ This is saying M60 goes to sleep every 2 minutes so I have been thinking M-D would be same, but actually never ??? The linked article talks about a time when his M60 took 7 sec to wake up and he missed the opportunity. It seems by removing the sleep, Leica has *fixed* MD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morry Posted May 18, 2016 Share #29 Posted May 18, 2016 Thank you. For me it sounds better than the camera like M-D (looking for "film-like experience) falling asleep in 2 mins and taking 2seconds to wake up every time. For my 246 I am setting it to 10mins which seems to be working well, or otherwise I could have disabled auto power off function entirely. Just wish that the "standby mode" for M-D is then effective enough, so that unless we intentionally or unintentionally half-press the shutter, the power is some what saved. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 18, 2016 Share #30 Posted May 18, 2016 I think Jaap is on the ball with his comments about the bag. The Hadley dividers would help, but fundamentally the OP needs a larger camera bag and throw away or sell to a mug the absurdly small Billingham Leica bag. Close fitting bags are no good for street shooters, no good for casual photographers, no good for anybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochus Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share #31 Posted May 18, 2016 Asked for a tiny firmware fix and suddenly get a new larger bag in my shopping basket which I was happy to avoid with all my Ms the last 15 years. [emoji28] M-D as the 1st M in history that cannot be used with the Leica Billingham. tststs... Seriously. Love the bag, it's perfect size and had been around the globe with me. Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 18, 2016 Share #32 Posted May 18, 2016 You don't need a larger bag - the Leica Kombitasche Klein - old type will not activate the switch: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/260499-m-d-battery-discharge-as-camera-is-not-turning-off-automatically/?do=findComment&comment=3046915'>More sharing options...
jmahto Posted May 18, 2016 Share #33 Posted May 18, 2016 Can a newer bag help in faster starup time as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochus Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share #34 Posted May 19, 2016 Good news from Leica, with the next firmware update there will be an auto power off (probably option). Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastgreenlander Posted May 20, 2016 Share #35 Posted May 20, 2016 Such a cool camera, wished it was cheaper though Sendt fra min SM-G930F med Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budfox Posted May 23, 2016 Share #36 Posted May 23, 2016 No, never sleeps The M60 closes the viewfinder displays at about 15 seconds, and goes to sleep after 2mins. Start up from either is 1 second max. I have left the camera on by accident many times and the battery has never gone flat. Interesting that they chose a different implementation for the M-D? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0c0m0 Posted May 23, 2016 Share #37 Posted May 23, 2016 Edward, just checked the Billingham web shop, the Hadley digital dividers look pretty much like the once in my Billingham for Leica and there are no dimensions given to compare. Can you help me to understand what's the difference and what makes them better than the ones in the Billingham for Leica. Thanks a lot. See http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/507949-REG/Billingham_501301_01_Digital_Hadley_Bag_Black.html for Billingham Hadley Digital. See http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/287055-REG/Leica_14854_Combination_Bag_for_M.html for Leica M Combination Bag Billingham Hadley Digital is smaller than the Leica M Combination Bag. I am using Billingham Hadley Digital when carrying M-D alone. This bag is fine with me. If I wanted to carry my Q as backup, I use Billingham Hadley Small. I I wanted to carry Q, M-D and a spare lens, I use Billingham Haldey Pro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdk Posted May 24, 2016 Share #38 Posted May 24, 2016 Can a newer bag help in faster starup time as well? No, but an SDXC card formatted in ExFAT will enable the M Typ 240 series to boot quite a bit faster, so this probably would work for the M-D as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted May 26, 2016 Share #39 Posted May 26, 2016 Good news from Leica, with the next firmware update there will be an auto power off (probably option). Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk That makes sense. The M6 makes a poor analogy because even if the battery dies only the meter is affected, the camera is still usable. The digitals become paperweights when the battery dies. I don't see why Leica couldn't have made it so all the M240 settings (except those involving video and LV of course) could be available via some sort of wired or wireless tethering. That would allow full user customization. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochus Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share #40 Posted June 13, 2016 firmware 1.0.0.4 is out... auto shut down after 10 min non-use. excellent. Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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