35 vs 50 vs 24

[jdlaing]

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We can only hope.

[edwardkaraa]

No misrepresentation, just sloppy wording on your part (as well as your statements that incorrectly cited flaws in my wording/reasoning).  I already gave you an example, which you never rebutted.  I'm done.

 

Jeff

 

I disagree. You started the argument by saying that I was wrong, but basically you keep on repeating what I said in different words.

[adamdewilde]

I'm having a hard time keeping up with who's saying what.. But I think something was missed and now you're all arguing the same point. 

 

If I take a shot of a tree at 24mm then standing still I zoom in and take a shot of the same tree at 70mm. Then I crop the 24mm shot to match the 70mm's crop. Will everything look identical (save for some rendering DOF/character differences that may arise)? The answer is YES.

 

However if I walk to my crop instead of zooming, will everything look identical? The answer is NO.

 

 

SEE: 

 

 

You have to ask yourself. As a photographer will you stand in the same spot and crop later in LR? No you won't. So why even argue this.  It's more interesting to discuss how different focal lengths can affect a scene, then how they can be made to see things the same way.

[Jeff S]

You started the argument by saying that I was wrong, but basically you keep on repeating what I said in different words.

 

Yep, in the right words.  Note every time you use the word 'perspective' (many times)....or the words 'background in relation to foreground'...wrong almost always.  Cropping does not alter that relationship in relative size, no matter how much you crop....or enlarge.

 

I lied....now I'm done.

 

Jeff

[Exodies]

There seem to be two definitions of the word "perspective" - and it seems folk would rather use both without specifying which they mean in a dialogue in order not to resolve a quarrel. This keeps happening in the forum; it would be fascinating to understand why but I can't get a grip on it. 

[semi-ambivalent]

This keeps happening in the forum; it would be fascinating to understand why but I can't get a grip on it. 

"This keeps happening" in lots of forums because 1) forums are a poor way to communicate almost anything, especially visual concepts, and between very diverse peoples to boot, and 2) the Internet is no more a community than is Disneyland. But it works passably well since we can't all be in the same pub where you might defend your honor with a punch to a nose or display your defeated intellectual underbelly by buying the next round. It will not get better. Or more clear. But life does stumble on.

 

s-a

[jdlaing]

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I guess we're not done. Damn the luck.

[Herr Barnack]

Working and saving up enough money to buy one each of every current production M lens would cause a hell of a lot less torment than enduring all this damn bickering... 

[Jeff S]

Try to keep things in perspective, please.

 

Jeff

[edwardkaraa]

I apologize to other forum members for having to endure the bickering. I admit of having sloppy English and that my explanation was not entirely correct even though I was trying to express the same thing.

[Herr Barnack]

Try to keep things in perspective, please.

 

Jeff

= joking.

[Jeff S]

I apologize to other forum members for having to endure the bickering. I admit of having sloppy English and that my explanation was not entirely correct even though I was trying to express the same thing.

 

Ditto.  Your English is better than any of my non-English attempts.

 

Jeff

[pico]

You guys. I have a 1000mm lens that I will mount on a 4/3 camera and ... Get a hernia setting it up.

[hendriphile]

Love, and be friends as two such men should be.

For I have seen more years, I’m sure, than ye.

; )

[NB23]

Edward karaa is right.

 

Basic photography 101.

[Stealth3kpl]

Edward karaa is right.

 

Basic photography 101.

Yes he is. Wasn't it amusing watching everyone argue his point for him!

Pete