The Leica M-D thread - merged.

[Morry]

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Well I am almost convinced, or my brain is about to be washed away.

 

Most probably I will get one in addition to M246 (may be easier to justify than adding this on top of M240/262 ?)

 

Solely for street. Keep the focus deep and would't worry about too many things just like when I was using M7.

Back then I must have lost some nice shots, but that too was part of my life.

 

I know that LCD can still be there, but having no screen should be the strongest way of resetting mind set which I am now looking for.

 

All of this can be just an illusion but not sure. Even so that is OK as long as I can personally find difference between "LCD off" and "No LCD".

Edited May 2, 2016 by Morry

[zlatkob]

What do you mean.....

You give up nothing. Not size, weight,ergonomics .....What does it cost to be sure and check at the right time?

 

Again to have an LCD and not use it is better than not having the option.

It's only a neat idea as a knockaroung when it doesn't matter....just for fun

And I guess thats the point... We all buy Leica because that are darn fun to use.

 

To answer you question, look how much you sacrifice by not having it .....insurance for shots that are important...to you

 

But this thread is right its not for me and there are 4 other M's to choose from.

 

 

I agree with you 100% about the LCD.  My guess is that marketing slogans with this concept were rejected early on:  "M-D:  the camera to knock around for fun when the picture doesn't matter to you."

[coupdefoudre]

I will be purchasing a square meter of Leica body leatherette covering and custom-cutting little pieces you can order to cover up the LCD screen on your M8s, M9s, Ms and their variants. Say, US$125.00?

 

 

For those who prefer a la carte orders, you will also be able to buy pieces to cover all the left & right side buttons, as well.

 

 

Jump at the chance now before the orders rush in!

[Tailwagger]

Removing it from the SL is technically impossible since it's a LV based camera.

 

While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not sure thats 'technically' true.  I'm unfamiliar with the SL feature set, but with Fujis, for example, one can shut the LCD off and do everything, menus, chimping, focus points etc. via the EVF. Its perfectly viable without the LCD. 

[AAK]

What are the odds that there will be a monochrome version of this camera to capture the decisive moments in B&W (without seeing them in a moment)? It would be even more authentic.

[jaapv]

Slim...

[AAK]

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It may seem odd, but it would be of more interest to me than the color version!

[pico]

I am waiting for the Decisive Moment Indicator.

[DandA]

If the camera had a screen, then an image of HCB could flash on the screen the moment a decisive moment image was captured. Alas the digital rangefinder camera that most emulates film cannot reward one with a "job well done" from the master of decisive moments" himself. How ironic .

[edwardkaraa]

While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not sure thats 'technically' true. I'm unfamiliar with the SL feature set, but with Fujis, for example, one can shut the LCD off and do everything, menus, chimping, focus points etc. via the EVF. Its perfectly viable without the LCD.

I mean that the EVF is also technically a screen. It's not recommended to turn it off while shooting, let alone removing it completely.

[edwardkaraa]

For those making fun of the decisive moment, you can name it something else, like peak moment, special moment, critical moment, whatever you like. Seems all of you guys prefer to shoot dull moments, boring moments, nothing happening moments. You don't even need an LCD to do that either

Edited May 3, 2016 by edwardkaraa

[BerndReini]

The M-D is a beautiful camera. This discussion is similar to the discussion when the M60 was released with less emphasis on the high price. The M-D is certainly a niche camera that appeals to few, but isn't that what Leica is all about? I mean to most people this is just an insider version of the discussion of  how Leica people could possibly buy such expensive cameras without autofocus.

[Budfox]

I notice that the specs for the M-D put the weight at 720g. This is slightly more than the M-P/M versions (680g), and in fact the same as the stainless steel M60. Can any owners confirm that the weight of the M-D is in fact 720g, or is it closer to the 680g mark which I would expect?

[edwardkaraa]

I notice that the specs for the M-D put the weight at 720g. This is slightly more than the M-P/M versions (680g), and in fact the same as the stainless steel M60. Can any owners confirm that the weight of the M-D is in fact 720g, or is it closer to the 680g mark which I would expect?

There is much more metal in the M-D compared to models with rear screen.

Edited May 3, 2016 by edwardkaraa

[Budfox]

There is much more metal in the M-D compared to models with rear screen.

 

Thanks Edwardkaraa, that does make sense.

Is there anyone here with an M-D can verify the weight?

[jaapv]

The camera body metal weighs next to nothing. The real weight comes from the top plate.

The rear body shell, including LCD assembly, buttons, strap lugs,atc weighs less than75 grams,te top plate with fittings 175...

[Peter H]

The M-D is a beautiful camera. This discussion is similar to the discussion when the M60 was released with less emphasis on the high price. The M-D is certainly a niche camera that appeals to few, but isn't that what Leica is all about? I mean to most people this is just an insider version of the discussion of how Leica people could possibly buy such expensive cameras without autofocus.

I don't agree.

 

I think there are plenty of photographically important and valid reasons for wanting an excellent optical viewfinder/ rangefinder/ manual focus camera.

 

From my personal perspective, there are no equally compelling photographic arguments for removing a switch-offable screen.

Edited May 3, 2016 by Peter H

[@McLeica]

I don't agree.

 

I think there are plenty of photographically important and valid reasons for wanting an excellent optical viewfinder/ rangefinder/ manual focus camera.

 

From my personal perspective, there are no equally compelling photographic arguments for removing a switch-offable screen.

 

I agree Peter. Just don't chimp or just turn the thing off.

 

On the flipside, when I want to simplify things, it annoys me a little that even with all the bells and whistles of the Q & M's, I can't turn off the jpg's and shoot only in DNG like the M-D.

 

As for the M-D, this might be harsh, but it's a poor pastiche of shooting film without the suprises, variations, flexibility and involvement different film emulsions can give you, even before you start developing.  

 

M8, M9, M240, M246, M60 and now M-D, like everyone else you'll still be processing DNG in Lightroom et al and start playing away to correct the issues you might have been able to deal with by varying the settings in camera.

 

It's restrictive for pretentiously restrictive sake.

[ECohen]

I don't agree.

 

I think there are plenty of photographically important and valid reasons for wanting an excellent optical viewfinder/ rangefinder/ manual focus camera.

 

From my personal perspective, there are no equally compelling photographic arguments for removing a switch-offable screen.

 

 

I could not agree with this statement more!!!!

Edited May 3, 2016 by ECohen

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[edwardkaraa]

Beside the no chimping part, the MD is appealing from the practical point of view. No buttons or controls on the back, just the ISO wheel and the thumb wheel. The simplicity of operation is quite attractive. As I mentioned, I'm not interested in this camera but I can't understand why is it causing such a hostile reaction from a few here.