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Neil

If you are looking for subjects, a series of images of life on an oil rig would be a really interesting photo story. 

 

I was hoping for a series of images of an oil rig worker trying to load a film in a Leica.

 

Feeling robbed.

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Penang Jetty Delta 400

 

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Okay here is my new problem. I have just got my scans back from the photo lab and there are quite a few of the scans without any Black and White details according to the Histogram and also according to the image IQ.

My initial thought was WTFIGOH, can’t put that down in English but I am sure you can get the jiff of it J

These pictures were taken in fantastic daylight conditions, and absolutely should not look like this so my question is; Is there a problem with either my camera or my camera settings (there aren’t any of those) or is it just what to expect from a scanned image………………..not frigging happy.

When I look at the histogram there is no black detail and also no white detail………why is that possible??

These pictures should be in your face correctly exposed, I’m starting to get second thoughts on this film lark, why is it that one minute a picture blows you away and the next they look like shite. I’m trying hard to fall in love with shooting film but can’t handle all these disappointments for no reason at all.

I guess I will find out for myself when I look at the negatives when I get home.

Not a happy camper.

 

 

I hope you don't mind me saying so but....this film trip you have chosen to take was always going to be more complicated than you anticipated. C'est la vie....

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Penang Jetty Delta 400.

 

Nice shot, lovely textures and one can almost smell the low tide. But something weird has happened to the sky in the upper right corner, bad film developing or maybe bad scan?

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I hope you don't mind me saying so but....this film trip you have chosen to take was always going to be more complicated than you anticipated. C'est la vie....

check yur spell checker..............looks like you have the same issue as Jaapv, and me

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Nice, Neil. I particularly like how the timber planking has turned out.

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I'm thinking of getting this to view and photograph my negatives from B&H but the shipping is nearly as much as the light..............do they sell these in KL or Singapore??

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/826085-REG/Porta_Trace_Gagne_1118LP_BLK_LED_Light_Panel.html

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@Eoin

I'm thinking of getting this to view and photograph my negatives from B&H but the shipping is nearly as much as the light..............do they sell these in KL or Singapore??

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/826085-REG/Porta_Trace_Gagne_1118LP_BLK_LED_Light_Panel.html

I bought a similar one from B&H, Neil. I had a bit of a Google at Singapore, but didn't see anything immediate, and didn't want to spend a day walking around SimLim Square - I think I'm allergic to shopping. B&H only takes a few days to reach here. Ammortise the shipping costs by buying more stuff...

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I bought a similar thing in HK, late last year, for my BEOON copying. It is (I think) actually a down-light for inside a ceiling, but hey, it works. And it was "cost effective".

An open air market in Kowloon if I recall correctly, I can look it up if needed.

Gary

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@Eoin

I'm thinking of getting this to view and photograph my negatives from B&H but the shipping is nearly as much as the light..............do they sell these in KL or Singapore??

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/826085-REG/Porta_Trace_Gagne_1118LP_BLK_LED_Light_Panel.html

And if you are going to do this (I assume so that you can examine your negs?) then get one of these also:

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/40713-REG/Peak_1302018_8x_Loupe.html

 

That way you can see what's really happening with your highlights and shadows.

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. Ammortise the shipping costs by buying more stuff...

I didn't need to here that mate..............your going to cost me  a fortune :) :) :)

I actually have the Leica 21mm Super Elmar and viewfinder in my shopping cart but 9 days in Hong Kong can do it $600 bucks cheaper so I am getting that from them when I get home. I'm contemplating the camera stand but that is nearly 800 bucks and I still think I can get it with my tripod..................what else should I get?????

Right now I have the lightbox and the loop added 20 rolls of TriX400

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I didn't need to here that mate..............your going to cost me  a fortune :) :) :)

I actually have the Leica 21mm Super Elmar and viewfinder in my shopping cart but 9 days in Hong Kong can do it $600 bucks cheaper so I am getting that from them when I get home. I'm contemplating the camera stand but that is nearly 800 bucks and I still think I can get it with my tripod..................what else should I get?????....

A step ladder for Nuk, so she can tell you when it's in focus... :rolleyes:

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I'm going back to the UK (Scotland) in June/July for two weeks to stay with my daughter and her BF, then we are heading to Switzerland for two weeks photo trip. My question is do you think is to early in my film career to only take my M6 and a few lenses for this trip?? Initially I was going to take my Leica S and the Q, but since I have found film, I'm thinking just take a film camera.........what do you guys think??

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Even as someone with a Tumblr blog called Emulsion-Mania, I take something digital on my trips.  When we disappear to France & Spain for a couple of months at a time I'll take two from M7/MP/IIIg + my Rollei but these will be accompanied by M240 + Q.  Admittedly space & weight are not a problem - this year I'm considering taking my 'new' Texas Leica along as well :0  But if there were flights and the associated constraints on luggage involved, I might well settle on one film M + the Q.  

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Neil, start your postprocessing properly by setting a black and a white point and then adjust the midtone contrast. After that you can tweak the file to your taste.

 

 

It is not that simple for me.

 

I took a darkroom workshop that really helped me understand the differences in global contrast VS local contrast, how contrast can affect the feel or effect of sharpness. So one thing I was taught was to evaluate the contact sheet and then the work print for areas that might need to be dodged and burned and then pre-dodged and pre-burned. 

 

I have found pre-burning or pre-dodging an area that I know my go totally black or blow out on an image in photoshop really helps to get a handle on the final result. Often I do it in steps, pre-dodge & burn then adjust white and black points and then do it again until I get the image where I want it. It just seems to keep the tones more natural, less HDR looking and at least for me, seems to work great. 

 

I just took 5 minutes and did it to this image of Neil's, I saw the buildings in the distance were lacking in local contrast, likely due to the effects of the air so I did a hard burn on the far building, a series of dodging on the trees to the right.

 

Hope this helps.

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I'm going back to the UK (Scotland) in June/July for two weeks to stay with my daughter and her BF, then we are heading to Switzerland for two weeks photo trip. My question is do you think is to early in my film career to only take my M6 and a few lenses for this trip?? Initially I was going to take my Leica S and the Q, but since I have found film, I'm thinking just take a film camera.........what do you guys think??

 

No offense, but 2-3 months generally is enough time for you to go off in an entirely new direction.   I think if you're still really engaged with film and your M6 by then, your answer will be more clear.  

 

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I agree with Jeff, by then 8x10 might be beckoning Neil, LOL. Sorry, but I can almost see it now "8x10 Camera for beginner" thread. Anyway, you seem to have broad shoulders and the fun this thread has generated is priceless, bordering on legendary.

 

I'd say if you are still "into" film at that stage, yes, take the M6, and a few lenses, 28/35/50/75, whatever. I'd certainly advocate a digital as well, the Q being the obvious choice, but given a handful of M lenses for the M6, why not an M9/M240 or similar?

 

Last trips to Europe I took the M6 and a couple of lenses, plus B&W film, as well as the X1 or X-Vario for "snapshots" and for colour.

 

Consider the airport effect on film, I worried about it, but this was unfounded, but by then things might have ramped up a bit, who knows. At least you can buy film in the UK, so maybe take minimal and buy local.

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