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Love your stuff Henry.

The thing that I noticed is that I am getting more chicks chatting to me since I got the M6. Maybe I relax's them❤️❤️

It's the M6. It's a chick-magnet...they can't help it.

 

Forget harleys, tattoos, and guitars, Leica M6's are what draws the women.

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Love your stuff Henry.

The thing that I noticed is that I am getting more chicks chatting to me since I got the M6. Maybe I relax's them❤️❤️

Thanks Neil :)

... and normal in response to your dynamism :)

18 pages with interesting posts since March 25, a record soon :D

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Since I am still shooting blind as such. What I'm doing is metering so that I have ~ 1/2 stop over

It feels okay but I guess we won't know until the skyproof is in the pudding

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That's the magical mystery tour!

 

Just stand developed some Ilford Delta Pro I shot at the weekend. Negs look good.

 

Will scan tonight on the Coolscan 5000 and see how they look and hopefully post.

 

Total time fiddling with chemicals, 5mins. 4.5ml + 100 Rodinal at 16 degrees and fix 1+ 4 at 18 degrees. 8 inversions during development (2x30 mins) and 16 during fix (4 mins).

 

I maybe being hasty. ;-)

 

Predictions?

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If you guys have a really good shop in KL, I do envy you.

I just posted my advice based on a few years of experience with labs in Shanghai/ China.

 

Based on that I do myself what I can and only let the lab handle color processing.

I wouldn't let them process my B&W if hell froze over and surely wouldn't have them scan my film (I did a few times and the film looked like it was dipped in honey, pulled over a dead cat nose to tail, a dog, shedding it's winter fur and through a used vacuum cleaner bag for good measure before being thrown in a box of nails, cut with a butter knife and stuffed into archive sleeves that looked very much like Buck's vaseline can.

 

If the shop is good, stick to it.

If you can do it yourself and have fun with it, do it yourself.

 

If you end up shooting film and have someone else deliver you low res digital files whats the point in shooting film in the first place though?

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I wouldn't let them process my B&W if hell froze over and surely wouldn't have them scan my film (I did a few times and the film looked like it was dipped in honey, pulled over a dead cat nose to tail, a dog, shedding it's winter fur and through a used vacuum cleaner bag for good measure before being thrown in a box of nails, cut with a butter knife and stuffed into archive sleeves that looked very much like Buck's vaseline can.

I don't think I've ever heard a better description of lousy negative handling than that!
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...If you end up shooting film and have someone else deliver you low res digital files whats the point in shooting film in the first place though?

It's a transition phase, Menos. Using the same logic, why have a scanner for b&w when you can go straight to wet printing?

 

Neil has just bought a camera, a lens, and some film. For what it's worth, I'm in the same situation (ie a bunch of film cameras and no scanner) - I shall get a scanner at some stage, but I'm not in any rush. The shop that Neil has access to use 2 Frontiers and a Plustek 120. The owner allows people to do their own developing and scanning there.

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It's a transition phase, Menos. Using the same logic, why have a scanner for b&w when you can go straight to wet printing?

It was compared 1600px Frontier scans to doing scanning yourself which with the right setup (even with a cheap Plustek) is way superior in data from the 1600px Frontier files.

I do my pre-scans in 1600px which is generally sufficient to separate bad shots, yet provide the entire roll of film for digital archive and make selections on rescans (1600px is REALLY fast with a Minolta 5400 + Vuescan).

Keepers are usually scanned at highest resolution, multi pass, some grain reduction/ ICE and a custom exposure to squeeze the most information out of the negative.

This last step is why one really wants to scan themselves, as most shops will just do a standard settings scan (as consumer prices for this service usually are laughably low for a business operation to earn a coin on custom scanning).

 

The entry level price for a decent scanner is way, way lower than any Leica film body costs to get into (~150 - 250 USD for a good Plustek) - no argument to me really ;-)

 

 

That's pretty dang cool.

 

I second that. The old shop I used in Shanghai (which closed eventually) allowed for renting time on their Hasselblad scanners + they had a truly fantastic set of large format printers too and willing people who went out of their way to get you just the right print.

Issue here in Shanghai with such shops is that even with truly great equipment, the output usually is mandated by the focus on lowest possible prices (hence often inconsistent quality and mediocre customer service).

Only a handful of shops have survived with decent quality (one only really) - I am very lucky that their color development and film handling during developing is solid and the shop is very recommendable (Weima Photo on Wulumuqi Lu).

 

I wish color dev kits would be available at good prices in Shanghai (they are not) then even C41 would be done in the darkroom bathroom.

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I just noticed we are on page 18 and that is in what less than two weeks. Thanks guys for all the support and advice......... I'm really enjoying this film lark.

Normally how long does one shoot 35mm before moving up to Medium Format[emoji3][emoji3]

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Whooo!!.....I've just binge-read this amazing Thread....it's got everything....high drama, low comedy, bathos and pathos, tension, hope, enlightenment, wonder and joy, misery, despair, relief and fulfilment,....better than Game of Thrones and no shedding of blood, yet.

 

Seriously, thanks Neil et al....fabulous entertainment.    :)   

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Today I experimented shooting the last of my TriX400 with a Lee 0.6 GND shooting rocks on the beach and a few other beachie shots........ Now is the pain of waiting to see how they turn out[emoji30][emoji30]

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Whooo!!.....I've just binge-read this amazing Thread....it's got everything....high drama, low comedy, bathos and pathos, tension, hope, enlightenment, wonder and joy, misery, despair, relief and fulfilment,....better than Game of Thrones and no shedding of blood, yet.

 

Seriously, thanks Neil et al....fabulous entertainment.    :)   

 

 

Yes it has indeed been the most entertaining of threads...

 

Now let's wait for Neil to start asking about Hasselblads.

I can already feel it in my water. 

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I just noticed we are on page 18 and that is in what less than two weeks. Thanks guys for all the support and advice......... I'm really enjoying this film lark.

Normally how long does one shoot 35mm before moving up to Medium Format[emoji3][emoji3]

One does; with you I give it three weeks ;) - and unless one has a compelling reason, one moves down just as quickly. :D

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One does; with you I give it three weeks ;) - and unless one has a compelling reason, one moves down just as quickly. :D

 

He's already alluding to it...it depends whether a Hasselblad 50 C/M is a better chick magnet than an M6.

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Another thing I noticed today Jaapv is that even with the Lee filter holder attached to the 35mm lens I could see the focus patch without an issue.

The M6 is a keeper as long as the files don't disappoint[emoji106]

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