flyalf Posted March 20, 2016 Share #1 Posted March 20, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) What is the better crop?Nr1.atSolid by Alf Sollund, on FlickrNr2.atSolid-2 by Alf Sollund, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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david strachan Posted March 20, 2016 Share #2 Posted March 20, 2016 2nd... the point of interest is the people, so move closer. The woman with the shopping bags is of no interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 20, 2016 Share #3 Posted March 20, 2016 Lovely, brrrr, and I slightly prefer #2, though #1 feels a bit colder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XVarior Posted March 21, 2016 Share #4 Posted March 21, 2016 NUMBER 2. Is that recent? beautiful by the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted March 23, 2016 Share #5 Posted March 23, 2016 Hello Alf, Nice photos. I would choose the second. You could do this in the camera by moving closer or: If you were taking photos with a 50mm lens you could have stayed in the same place & changed to a 90. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted March 23, 2016 Share #6 Posted March 23, 2016 Another vote for N° 2 which I find more readable... robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted March 23, 2016 Share #7 Posted March 23, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Photography is a misunderstood science. With the internet, anyone can comment and sound knowledgeable. If kept at the level of opinions, good. At the level of recomendations, a bit of education as a background is required. In this instance, #1 is a much, much stronger photograph with a strong composition. Number 2 is a messy, unappealing composition with a very boring subject. Cropping is bad practice, anyways. Number 1's only merit is if it has been shot as-is. If it's a crop from an even wider shot, then simply trash everything and go back to the shooting basics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted March 23, 2016 Share #8 Posted March 23, 2016 I like #1 better, due to the perspective and more "breadth". #1 is easier, but makes me stair at the tables. But I am all for cropping if needed. The "cropping is bad practice" thing is just old times snobbery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted March 23, 2016 Share #9 Posted March 23, 2016 But I am all for cropping if needed. The "cropping is bad practice" thing is just old times snobbery. You must be lf the hcb fanclub or ex-fanclub? Let's stop it with silly hcb myths. This has nothing to do with him or "old times" and everything to do with skills. When we're out and shooting for leisure, with all the time in front of us, the minimim we can do is to compose. If you can't compose or understand what you're actually seeing then simply format the cards, throw the films and sell the cameras. Photography is a discipline. If you shifted the discipline from the act of shootig to the act of retouching, then let's be called lightroomers and photoshoppers. By the way, hcb often had his pics cropped for publications. At last, phjptography is all about composing. Getting it right in the camera is what separates the good ones from the bad ones, no matter how good they think they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted March 23, 2016 Share #10 Posted March 23, 2016 #1 is easier, but makes me stair at the tables. EDIT: I meant #2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted March 24, 2016 Share #11 Posted March 24, 2016 At last, phjptography is all about composing. Getting it right in the camera is what separates the good ones from the bad ones, no matter how good they think they are. The final result is all that matters. How it is obtained is not really important. Like in music, composition takes advantage of variations. Geniuses like Bach and Mozart were masters in this sense. Thinking you can capture the one-and-only perfect picture for everyone is short-sighted to say the least. Your "getting it right in the camera" makes sense about point of view and perspective, but it's utter nonsense about cropping. Like in this case, let's assume the "right" thing was a 1:1 (square format, #2) but the camera sensor is 3:2. What you are telling us that the best shot would be #2 if and only if the camera sensor was square ? Now, excuse me while I ROTFL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted March 24, 2016 Share #12 Posted March 24, 2016 Flow of consciousness: #1: Nice friendly city with a lot of snow. #2: Some kids stare at a dog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenton C Posted March 24, 2016 Share #13 Posted March 24, 2016 Cheshire, I fear you are falling for troll bait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted March 24, 2016 Share #14 Posted March 24, 2016 Cheshire, I fear you are falling for troll bait. And I think you are right. Stupid me ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenton C Posted March 24, 2016 Share #15 Posted March 24, 2016 Oh, I wouldn't endorse that judgment at all! Sometimes it's hard to be sure if disagreement is genuine or if it's little more than someone just being contrary and argumentative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted March 24, 2016 Share #16 Posted March 24, 2016 the best favor a fauxtographer can do to himself is to start learning what he actuall sees. And then to properly compose. This is the first step to go from fauxtographer to photographer. Yesrerday I purchased a pan. I became a chef. I then went on serious culinary forums and when I didn't agree with the real chefs I Called them Trolls. I mean, is it really important to cook at 350f? 475f has to be better. It's all about personal taste. I like my toasts black and crunchy. Culinary school? Why? It's all on TV now. Gordon Ramsay shows you how it's done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted March 24, 2016 Share #17 Posted March 24, 2016 #2 for me Alf, both are nice though. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted March 24, 2016 Share #18 Posted March 24, 2016 the best favor a fauxtographer can do to himself is to start learning what he actuall sees. And then to properly compose. This is the first step to go from fauxtographer to photographer. Yesrerday I purchased a pan. I became a chef. I then went on serious culinary forums and when I didn't agree with the real chefs I Called them Trolls. I mean, is it really important to cook at 350f? 475f has to be better. It's all about personal taste. I like my toasts black and crunchy. Culinary school? Why? It's all on TV now. Gordon Ramsay shows you how it's done. In the same vein: the best thing a forum member can do to himself is starting to think about what he is going to write. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share #19 Posted May 20, 2016 Many thanks for all comments Just a few answers from me.- I allmost allways crop. Why should I not I use the tools at hand to produce a better photo? I would say that NOT to crop is a lazy attitude - The composition was in this photo was limited by a rail not alloving me to move closer, and by limited time to move. - Imo the compostion is mainly decided by placement, but cropping can improve composition, or perhaps rather improve what the photo is limiting and "forcing" the viewer to see.Btw, I'm not in line with the majority here since I prefer the added context in #1. But thats why input such as yours is valuable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantist Posted May 20, 2016 Share #20 Posted May 20, 2016 Nummer to. Tenker at hunden på høyre mot kattelua på barn på venstre kan bli morsomt... Mvh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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