SEM 21 vs Loxia 21 shootout

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The line between humour and rudeness is a fine one, indeed. Can we try and remain civil, please?

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[gyoung]

The case for the prosecution is flawed. I rest my case, m'lud.

But based on a false semantic interpretation, afaik consecutive is one after the other, no time interval specified or required...

 

Gerry

Edited January 27, 2016 by gyoung

[CheshireCat]

Thanks for sharing the gif. It is way more useful than smileys. Btw, EXIF data won't prove anything. You need witnesses who can be cross examined.

 

 

Indeed, EXIF data can be faked easily.

In this case, in the original files, you can see a little baby with a pink bonnet in both photos: in one she is inside the first boat, and in the other she is held by her dad after getting out of the boat.

But even raw file image data can be faked.

Some cameras can digitally sign the files, so that one can check if they have been altered, but then again...

Edited January 27, 2016 by CheshireCat

[jmahto]

Indeed, EXIF data can be faked easily.

In this case, in the original files, you can see a little baby with a pink bonnet in both photos: in one she is inside the first boat, and in the other she is held by her dad after getting out of the boat.

But even raw file image data can be faked.

Some cameras can digitally sign the files, so that one can check if they have been altered, but then again...

No need to explain. I actually wanted to say that people complaining about "consecutive or not" will not be satisfied by any explanation. I hope discussion remains light hearted and usefulness of (your) contribution doesn't get lost.

[Nordvik]

And the M240 + SEM21.

 

There must be something wrong with your SEM. Or your focusing. Or your handling of the camera. No way is a SEM that bad.

[CheshireCat]

There must be something wrong with your SEM. Or your focusing. Or your handling of the camera. No way is a SEM that bad.

 

 

Like I said, use that as a color comparison only.

The focus is behind the animal in the SEM shot, so sharpness cannot be compared.

[mark r.]

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been trying to find ideal wide-angle for me, Loxia 21/2.8 is the one. When I compared GFX-100s and 23/4 GF with Loxia, the Zeiss wins. I didn't want to find that result but it happened and it works for me. If printing 4-foot long prints I'd re-test. But that's not the case and the weight difference between the 2 options, Loxia wins. also closeup shots of Loxia 21 at f/8 vs GF 23 at f/8 (and f/10) shows Sony is easier to get more close-zone in-focus.

I really wanted the 23 to work better for me but Loxia won. Cameras/lenses are like fly rods, each one fits each fly-fisher diff for diff streams and fishing style/flies/etc. But while learning photography, fly-fishing is easy in comparison in my exp.

Edited February 10, 2023 by mark r.