digitalfx Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share #21  Posted January 18, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Would someone who owns both an SL and a 50 APO mind posting a few pictures of the combination? I am trying to get a sense of what people mean when they say it looks/feels odd to have the small lens on the SL.  (I would like an SL for the organic use of a telephoto, not the M-240 kludge, but I can't see myself investing in a new 50 prime.  Therefore, I'd love to know whether having the 50 APO on the SL is a viable kit for some everyday situations.)  Many thanks.    I just received the 50 APO and I don't understand why some feels its odd or too small. The pair are perfectly suited for each other. The SL is not all that bigger than the M240, so its really no different than using the same lenses on the M240 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BerndReini Posted January 19, 2016 Share #22 Â Posted January 19, 2016 I agree that the 50Apo is nice fit for the SL. The SL is quite a big bigger than the M240 without finder. I had a hard time fitting it in any of my camera bags. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 19, 2016 Share #23 Â Posted January 19, 2016 The prices on the 50mm APO have dropped dramatically...I just couldn't resist, now I have three 50mm M lens...Is it time for an intervention? Â ?? Â A new one is currently still over $7000 in the US, about the same place it started out, before subsequent price increases. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share #24  Posted January 19, 2016 ??  A new one is currently still over $7000 in the US, about the same place it started out, before subsequent price increases.  Jeff   Google is your friend. Mint/Like new examples are selling on FM around 5k. Brand new examples sold for $6000 recently, and are currently selling for $6750  I paid $5100 for a like new example in original box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share #25 Â Posted January 19, 2016 I agree that the 50Apo is nice fit for the SL. The SL is quite a big bigger than the M240 without finder. I had a hard time fitting it in any of my camera bags. Â "quite a bit bigger"? I would say slightly bigger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugues33 Posted January 19, 2016 Share #26  Posted January 19, 2016 SL + 50 APO Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/255075-50mm-f20-apo-summicron-m-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2972053'>More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted January 19, 2016 Share #27  Posted January 19, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks so much. If someone could post a "mug shot" of the 50 APO on the SL -- from the front, and a profile -- I'd really appreciate it. The images posted indicate the SL is a fantastic camera.  And I can envision instances where traveling with the SL and Monochrom could be a great combo.  But it would help to see what one looks like with a standard M lens, not the ginormous zoom depicted in product marketing shots. Many thanks in advance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 19, 2016 Share #28  Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Google is your friend. Mint/Like new examples are selling on FM around 5k. Brand new examples sold for $6000 recently, and are currently selling for $6750  I paid $5100 for a like new example in original box  I said 'new' prices.....I don't need Google to find the obvious, i.e., that as a product ages, used/demo samples appear.  That's hardly equivalent to stating that lens prices have dropped dramatically.  And I did check new prices at several reputable dealers before posting....still about $7000 for each, having come down from over $8000.  There are always bargains to be found with enough search and resourcefulness....even when products are new....I've done it....without Google.  Jeff Edited January 19, 2016 by Jeff S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share #29  Posted January 19, 2016 Thanks so much. If someone could post a "mug shot" of the 50 APO on the SL -- from the front, and a profile -- I'd really appreciate it. The images posted indicate the SL is a fantastic camera.  And I can envision instances where traveling with the SL and Monochrom could be a great combo.  But it would help to see what one looks like with a standard M lens, not the ginormous zoom depicted in product marketing shots. Many thanks in advance.  Here you go. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/255075-50mm-f20-apo-summicron-m-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2972129'>More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share #30  Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) I said 'new' prices.....I don't need Google to find the obvious, i.e., that as a product ages, used/demo samples appear.  That's hardly equivalent to stating that lens prices have dropped dramatically.  And I did check new prices at several reputable dealers before posting....still about $7000 for each, having come down from over $8000.  There are always bargains to be found with enough search and resourcefulness....even when products are new....I've done it....without Google.  Jeff  Well you quoted me and I never said "new" prices. Although the lens was selling "NEW" for $6000 about a month ago...the same "dealer" is selling them today for $6750 NEW.  Maybe you have a different opinion of "dramatic" but to me a new product is discounted from 8k to 6k- a 25% discount,  it is a dramatic price change.  For me it was worth an even additional $1700 saving to get a used one that is indistinguishable from new. Thats about 40% less, again pretty dramatic.  The point is that Leica lens prices are not what they used to be. Just a few years ago, they were never discounted (and in some cases sold for more than retail) and you could sell them used for nearly what you paid for them new (thanks to the annual price increases). Those days are clearly over. Edited January 19, 2016 by digitalfx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted January 19, 2016 Share #31 Â Posted January 19, 2016 Indeed, Used Leica M gear has dropped significantly in price over the last few years. I think it's mainly the improved availability--buyers who wish to buy new are no longer forced to wait months (or even a year or more) for their desired lens to become available, so now the used market is loosening up a bit. As far as the new prices coming down... I'm pretty sure that's a reflection of the relatively strong USD over the past year. Â Glad you were able to pick up a 50 APO at what you feel is a reasonable price. I did the same recently. Â - Jared Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted January 19, 2016 Share #32 Â Posted January 19, 2016 Â "quite a bit bigger"? I would say slightly bigger Semantics. It is a slippery slope if you consider the discussions on this forum about mow much bigger the M240 is compared to the M9. I'm not saying that it is unjustified or problematic, but I have several small camera bags for my M cameras from A&A, Dome etc. and I slide in my M cameras sideways with the lens painting to one side. For the SL, I would have to switch to a larger bag. Â Obviously the combo is still much smaller than the new 50mm lux Leica will is making for the SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share #33 Â Posted January 19, 2016 Semantics. It is a slippery slope if you consider the discussions on this forum about mow much bigger the M240 is compared to the M9. I'm not saying that it is unjustified or problematic, but I have several small camera bags for my M cameras from A&A, Dome etc. and I slide in my M cameras sideways with the lens painting to one side. For the SL, I would have to switch to a larger bag. Â Obviously the combo is still much smaller than the new 50mm lux Leica will is making for the SL. Â Â Yes semantics. Funny but after using the SL for the past few months exclusively...I picked up my Monochrome this weekend to shoot and was shocked at how small it was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugues33 Posted January 19, 2016 Share #34  Posted January 19, 2016 The SL with SUMMILUX 35 FLE : Same size and the 50mm is most heavier This combo is very nice in hand (35 et 50) It is very easy to accurate   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/255075-50mm-f20-apo-summicron-m-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2972179'>More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted January 19, 2016 Share #35 Â Posted January 19, 2016 I have several small camera bags for my M cameras from A&A, Dome etc. and I slide in my M cameras sideways with the lens painting to one side. Â For the SL, I would have to switch to a larger bag. Â Yes, I had to do that for the same lenses combo I use on the M. Â It is not only the bump of the viewfinder but also the big rubber ring at the back of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share #36  Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) here are a couple shots with the original Monochrome for comparison. The M lenses are nicely matched with the SL. SL + 50mm APO MM + 50mm Summilux Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 19, 2016 by digitalfx 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/255075-50mm-f20-apo-summicron-m-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2972306'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 20, 2016 Share #37 Â Posted January 20, 2016 I find it very amusing, given these pics, that some here who now embrace the SL, and view it as roughly the same size or not much bigger than the M, are among the ones who thought the M was a beast compared to the M9 (actually only 1mm difference and a heavier battery). Â Â Gotta love forums... Â Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share #38  Posted January 20, 2016 I find it very amusing, given these pics, that some here who now embrace the SL, and view it as roughly the same size or not much bigger than the M, are among the ones who thought the M was a beast compared to the M9 (actually only 1mm difference and a heavier battery).   Gotta love forums...  Jeff   The M a beast compared to the M9?? They are roughly the same size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 20, 2016 Share #39 Â Posted January 20, 2016 The M a beast compared to the M9?? They are roughly the same size. Â Exactly....did you read my post? Â Â Gotta love forums.... Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share #40  Posted January 20, 2016 Exactly....did you read my post?   Gotta love forums....  Jeff   thats crazy talk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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