gyoung Posted December 31, 2015 Share #21 Posted December 31, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Things like Irfanview can open prety well any file, even psd as far as I can remember and even if Lightroom went you would still have your RAW and jpgs, you would just lose your post processing. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Exodies Posted December 31, 2015 Share #22 Posted December 31, 2015 I understand that if your CC subscription ends you will have read only access to your files and any edits made. Thus you will be able to export to tiff or JPEG. It would not work as a business if they clamped a time lock on your photographs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted December 31, 2015 Share #23 Posted December 31, 2015 I understand that if your CC subscription ends you will have read only access to your files and any edits made. Thus you will be able to export to tiff or JPEG. It would not work as a business if they clamped a time lock on your photographs. Do you have a link stating that files imported via LR/PS can't be opened in other applications? I only ask because that's not how it works at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 31, 2015 Share #24 Posted December 31, 2015 It's not for me. I only use Lightroom, and like it a lot, but the upgrade fee for a new version ($70 about every 18 months) works out better than the subscription model. I don't need the mobile bit, and I can pass on the frequent updates, especially on the laptop. Nothing is more aggravating than firing up the laptop at an airport gate to check email, and finding the pig slowed down to a crawl by an AV/Office/application update that started running in the background. I would not have appreciated the update to version 6 that trashed the Import dialog, without any warning. And reports like this aren't too encouraging, either: http://www.dslrbodies.com/accessories/software-for-nikon-dslrs/software-news/why-nobody-trusts-adobe.html But it's apparently working great for Adobe. There was an Adobe email that circulated a couple of weeks ago (maybe I saw it on PetaPixel) that was gushing about what the subscription model had done for last quarter's financials. [bold emphasis mine] I also stick to the standalone LR version....but just want to make sure that you know you still get free interim updates, which you are not obligated to download. The Application Manager provides access to updates....harder to find than updates to LR 5 and prior, but still available. I always wait a bit to determine if there are bugs or issues with any version and, if so, hold off. I did just that with 6.2 because of import issues, but have since downloaded 6.3 without problem. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted January 1, 2016 Share #25 Posted January 1, 2016 Gerry, be aware that the default in Lightroom is to put your edits inside the .dng file. So Irfanview may or may not open the file and acknowledge the edits. The time to try it is now. You can set an option to save the edits to a .xmp sidecar if you desire, instead of inside the .dng. Cameras with raw that is not .dng automatically get a sidecar unless the raw file is converted to .dng. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotomas Posted January 1, 2016 Share #26 Posted January 1, 2016 I stay with my old PS version (before CC). It does all I need. C1 for RAW conversion.As long as Adobe only offers CC licenses they won't receive any money from me.For me there are to many disadvantages and risks on my side:Much to expensive in long term.You have to pay even if there is no new stuff that you need or want and also if it get's worse.They can rise the price as they like and shut down my businesses if they want. I have to let them monitoring my systems.Often you lose freedom for security. In this case you lose both: freedom and security. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 1, 2016 Share #27 Posted January 1, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Do you have a link stating that files imported via LR/PS can't be opened in other applications? I only ask because that's not how it works at present. Sorry, I could have been clearer, I mean read only through the LR app. Of course the files are fully available to any other program. in other words, when you end your subscription Lightroom will still function apart from to make new edits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted January 1, 2016 Share #28 Posted January 1, 2016 Gerry, be aware that the default in Lightroom is to put your edits inside the .dng file. So Irfanview may or may not open the file and acknowledge the edits. The time to try it is now. You can set an option to save the edits to a .xmp sidecar if you desire, instead of inside the .dng. Cameras with raw that is not .dng automatically get a sidecar unless the raw file is converted to .dng. Are you sure? I thought the options were - edits go in the Lightroom catalogue or in XMP files. The latter binds you less to the product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted January 1, 2016 Share #29 Posted January 1, 2016 [bold emphasis mine] I also stick to the standalone LR version....but just want to make sure that you know you still get free interim updates, which you are not obligated to download. The Application Manager provides access to updates....harder to find than updates to LR 5 and prior, but still available. I always wait a bit to determine if there are bugs or issues with any version and, if so, hold off. I did just that with 6.2 because of import issues, but have since downloaded 6.3 without problem. Jeff Jeff, That was my understanding. Lightroom lets you know that a x.1 update is available, and you can download it or not. For some of their other products, like Acrobat, though, every time I download an update I have to go into Preferences and de-select the auto-download updates checkbox (instead of the "notify me of updates" checkbox), because every new version selects auto-update as the default. And I also wait awhile before updating Lightroom, usually check Laura Shoe's or the Lightroom Queen websites for tales of woe re the new update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted January 1, 2016 Share #30 Posted January 1, 2016 Exodies, you can tell that the .dng file is modified after editing because the file gets a new date in the directory where the file resides. There was a discussion on this topic some time ago in this subforum. That discussion included the appropriate links to the Adobe web site where it clearly states what happens with the edits. I don't use Lightroom precisely because of all the catalog and library nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 1, 2016 Share #31 Posted January 1, 2016 Whatever else, I find that since the last update the colour control of PS CC is starting to rival C1Pro. That alone is worth the subscription to me. The only thing I still miss is the ability to create colour-based layers on the fly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted January 1, 2016 Share #32 Posted January 1, 2016 I dont have a camera that generates dng files so I dont know what happens with them. I have only used dng as a 'halfway house' from Panasonic raws, a format my old PS didnt recognise. My comments were based on Nikon and Sony raw files, and you will always have those to revert too even if you loose your edits. Anything really complex I would export as a tif, but an uncompressed tif is so much larger than the raw file I don't do it too often! Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share #33 Posted January 6, 2016 Thanks for all your input, fellas! I have decided to go for it and signed up for CC this afternoon. The 20% offer is still valid so £6.85 per month for the first year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted January 15, 2016 Share #34 Posted January 15, 2016 $2 a month for a year. Will $24 make or break you. I suggest a cheaper hobby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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