scott kirkpatrick Posted January 3, 2016 Share #21 Posted January 3, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) The M8 and M9 Easter eggs (sequence of actions that bring up the service menus for shutter count and other stuff) are known. Google will find them. But I have not located the M240 equivalent, and the SL's would have to be very different. Anyone know the last two Easter eggs and be willing to share the info? scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pico Posted January 3, 2016 Share #22 Posted January 3, 2016 Even if I understood the question, Pico, I wouldn't have the faintest idea how to access that information. I can do it on the M9, but nothing else, so it is probably a futile quest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 3, 2016 Share #23 Posted January 3, 2016 The on/off switch is huge improvement on the switch on the C112, where it is a button next to the shutter button. It is just too easy to press the wrong button in error and turn the camera off rather than take a picture. Also unlike my M's, I have never found my SL turned on in the bag, with a flat battery. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trond Posted January 5, 2016 Share #24 Posted January 5, 2016 I am experiencing a startup time of my SL at an extreme 16 seconds, and it feels like an eternity when standing and waiting for the camera to become ready.I am using two Lexar Professional 64GB 1000X SDXC cards.I have configured the SL with "storage Backup" set to "On".This is what happens:1. Turn on the camera or press the shutter button if the camera is in sleep mode.2. On the top display reads then "CARD SEARCH" for three or four seconds.3. Then the display shows "SEARCH" for a further 10-12 seconds.4. "READY" after a total of 15-16 seconds before the camera is ready to take pictures.I have also checked other combinations than SD1 = SD2, such as SD1 + SD2 and SD1 or SD2 only, all with the same Lexar 64GB 1000X cards.It turns out that it is SD Slot 1 on the SL that is causing the problem.With SD card in Slot 2 is the startup time 3-4 seconds, and the display shows "CARD SEARCH" then "READY". With SD card in Slot 1 is the startup time 15-16 seconds, and the display shows "CARD SEARCH" then "SEARCH" and finally "READY".Anyone that can check this on their own SL with the same cards and with SanDisk cards?Best regardsTrond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 5, 2016 Share #25 Posted January 5, 2016 Trond, I am using identical cards and getting almost instant start up. The only difference is I have storage back up set to "Off". Two possible checks before you return your SL to the dealer 1) Re-Format your cards in a PC (Mac or Windows) using SD Formatter. Do a complete not a quick format. 2) Do a full camera reset from the menu. The second cured an odd problem I had very soon after purchase where buttons showed as being customised in the menu but in practice, retained the default function. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trond Posted January 5, 2016 Share #26 Posted January 5, 2016 Dear Wilson, Thank you for your input! The long startup is related to Slot 1, as it exists with only one card in the SL in Slot 1. Moving the card to Slot 2 cures the problem, pointing to Slot 2 as the fastest. There are conflicting info from Leica as to which slot is the fastest one. The SL technical data says that Slot 1 is UHS-II, while the SL manual says that Slot 2 is UHS-II. I have used secure erase on Mac on the cards, and then reformatted in the SL camera. I will do a full reset and possibly also reinstall FW 1.2 tonight when I get home. Best regards Trond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. van Asch Posted January 5, 2016 Share #27 Posted January 5, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) If I startup my SL it takes 2 seconds. I use slot 1 Scandisk HC 2 and slot 2 Scandisk HC 1. Storage Back up on or off makes no difference. Gerjan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2016 Share #28 Posted January 5, 2016 Maybe the same findings as on the M, that exFAT leads to short times and FAT to long ones? If you erase on a MAC you might be picking a format that causes the camera difficulties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trond Posted January 5, 2016 Share #29 Posted January 5, 2016 Dear Jaap, The cards were formatted in the SL camera. There is a very significant increase in the startup time depending on the slot. In slot 1 it is 16 seconds, in slot 2 it is 3-4 seconds. Same card same formatting in both cases. Best regards Trond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2016 Share #30 Posted January 5, 2016 One cannot format the file structure in the camera. A camera format leaves the file structure untouched and that is just the point. Check the card in the computer and if FAT try formatting your card to exFAT in your computer. It is quite possible that your secure erase in the computer is at the root of the trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 5, 2016 Share #31 Posted January 5, 2016 Maybe the same findings as on the M, that exFAT leads to short times and FAT to long ones? If you erase on a MAC you might be picking a format that causes the camera difficulties. I have always formatted new cards on a Mac using SD Formatter and then reformatted in the camera. I have never had an issue with start up times for Digilux2/M8/M9/M240/SL/C-Lux/V-Lux20/C112. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2016 Share #32 Posted January 5, 2016 Yes, but what size cards? Modern cards of 32 Gb and larger are automatically formated to exFAT, whilst older, smaller cards may be formated to FAT 16 or FAT 32. I would say the hypothesis is worth checking out. Edit- I see the OP uses 64 GB cards, so that one is off the table, however, Secure Erase in the Mac may still be a cause. I would advise to run the offending cards through SD Formatter and after that not erase them in the computer any more, but use in-camera formating only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trond Posted January 5, 2016 Share #33 Posted January 5, 2016 One cannot format the file structure in the camera. A camera format leaves the file structure untouched and that is just the point. Check the card in the computer and if FAT try formatting your card to exFAT in your computer. It is quite possible that your secure erase in the computer is at the root of the trouble. Dear Jaap, I checked the format and it was exFAT. Formatted again with SD Formatter with overwrite option. Start uptime is still 16 seconds in Slot 1 and 3 seconds in Slot 2. Card is brand new Lexar 64GB Professional 1000X SDXC UHS-II. Best regards Trond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2016 Share #34 Posted January 5, 2016 Trond, In that case you certainly have ruled out the card. Given that your experience does not match others on this forum, it would appear that your camera is out of spec. I would advise you to call Customer Service directly and bypass the long way through importer and dealer, unless you can claim a camera replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted January 5, 2016 Share #35 Posted January 5, 2016 The only UHS-II cards that Leica claims are compatible with the SL are (unobtainable) Toshiba cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. van Asch Posted January 5, 2016 Share #36 Posted January 5, 2016 After reading the manual and technical specs. before getting my new SL I saw that you have to use slot 1 HC II and slot 2 HC1. I installed the sd carts and took pics. and after that downloading to my Mac Book Pro via the cable. To format I use the camera. Both cards are 32 GB. Gerjan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 5, 2016 Share #37 Posted January 5, 2016 The only UHS-II cards that Leica claims are compatible with the SL are (unobtainable) Toshiba cards. In practice, it does not appear that fussy. UHS II cards are only starting to appear and at the time of writing the manual, it is possible that Toshiba cards were the only cards theoretically available. I could not locate any in the UK other than Fleabay and I don't buy cards from there. Both Lexar and SanDisk UHS II cards are now available and those two makes seem to be working well for most SL users. I bought 3 x 64GB 1000x UHS II Lexar professional cards, as I did not want to mess around with different cards for different slots. They were only £25 on Amazon UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trond Posted January 5, 2016 Share #38 Posted January 5, 2016 Dear Wilson, There are more parameters in this mess, than just the card brand and spec. I got hold of four additional Lexar 64GB 1000X cards, and these are just fine with regards to the startup time. The cards have a different design on the label, Black/Golden on the ones that don´t work, and Black/Silver on the ones that do work. The spec is SDXC UHS-II on all eight cards, four works and four of them don´t. Looking at the laser marking on the back of the card, the revision seems to be different. Slow startup time cards are marked: 31532-C10-64GBBM C Functional cards are marked: 31532-C10-64GBBM D I take the last letter C and D to be a revision code, and Rev D cards are ok in the SL, but Rev C cards show slow startup time. Please check your own cards an tell us what the laser marking on the back of the card says. Best regards Trond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 5, 2016 Share #39 Posted January 5, 2016 If that is the D standing on its own at the far right of the second row of code on the back of the Lexar cards, my three are all also D, which might explain why I have had no start up delay - pure luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2016 Share #40 Posted January 5, 2016 So the cards after all... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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