elmarit 28 versions

[Stein K S]

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Hi

 

I currently own the 28 Elmarit asph. However, I am not particularly fond of the way this lens draws... I now have an Elmarit v3 at hand and think that this lens might offer the more classic look that I like... without too many "negatives" though... ;-) So I ask for input on how the forum will describe these two lenses in comparison?

 

ps: is the v3 the last non asph version...?

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Go to http://www.antiquecameras.net/leica28mmmlenses.html for details of the various pre-asph 28 Elmarits. Mine is the E46mm and is a wonderful lens (was told by someone at Leica Mayfair that it was considered optically superior to the asph replacement).

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[rirakuma]

Hi

 

I currently own the 28 Elmarit asph. However, I am not particularly fond of the way this lens draws... I now have an Elmarit v3 at hand and think that this lens might offer the more classic look that I like... without too many "negatives" though... ;-) So I ask for input on how the forum will describe these two lenses in comparison?

 

ps: is the v3 the last non asph version...?

 

By the v3 do you mean the e49? I use to own the e49 and now the asph and although the latter is technically better, the e49 has a pleasant classic rendering wide open. The e46 (v4) might be a nice midpoint between the two but I chose the asph because of its size.

[Stein K S]

By the v3 do you mean the e49? I use to own the e49 and now the asph and although the latter is technically better, the e49 has a pleasant classic rendering wide open. The e46 (v4) might be a nice midpoint between the two but I chose the asph because of its size.

Hi and thanks

 

It is the e49. I like what I hear concerning wide open performance. However, how would you describe it at 5,6 compared to the asph? Thank you for all comments!

 

regards, Stein

[rirakuma]

Stopped down its not really noticeable unless you pixel peep but the asph has better corners and extra crisp. Personally in the case of 28 elmarits I would choose the models in terms of filter preference (ignoring v1 and v2).

[adan]

I like the v.3 best for imaging. It's only real drawback is size (it was designed before Leicas had built-in 28mm frames, and was expected to be used with a finder in the accessory shoe.)

 

I don't use any 28mm on full-frame - but the v.3 was a total hero during my M8 years. Which cropped off the other weak spot - softish corners.

 

See second entry: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/45272-in-praise-of-the-mandler-lenses/

[jaques]

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I have the V2 version I think- I really like it:

 

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[Adrian Lord]

I have the v4  - think it is excellent

[Abram]

I have the v3 myself (E49) and I've been nothing but pleased with it. I will probably be parting ways with it only as I intend to buy a 28 Summicron, but the rendering is beautiful on film and digital, and it is a rare M wide that works well on the Sony A7 cameras (if that's your thing).

 

Parkside. Amsterdam. by Abram Goglanian, on Flickr

 

On an M2 with Portra 400

 

Untitled. by Abram Goglanian, on Flickr

 

On my M240

[John Perkins]

It would be impossible to compare performance of the versions of 28mm Elmarits without a controlled test... same shot, same light, same processing, etc.

[jaques]

It would be impossible to compare performance of the versions of 28mm Elmarits without a controlled test... same shot, same light, same processing, etc.

if that's so then the conclusion is that they are all perfectly adequate and to all intensive purposes identical. However I do not believe it is so.

[chema]

I also have the version lll and find it "perfect" for infrared shots with my M8.

Focus on 5,6 mark.

 

Best regards

 

chema

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[tobey bilek]

I donated an E49 and replaced it by ASPH.   V3 corners lack sharpness to F5.6 or 8 on full frame digital although it was fine on film,  ok on M8.   No experience with V4.

 

V3 is a rather large lens.

 

You might have trouble finding a shade for V3.

 

Got a 24 3.8 and really like it,  perhaps more than ASPH,  however I have not done side by side.

[Abram]

 

V3 is a rather large lens.

 

You might have trouble finding a shade for V3.

 

This is true, the E49 is pretty big, and even bigger with the difficult-to-source shade. That being said, it's not overwhelmingly large, like some of the chunkier Voigtlander lenses. The shade is on the verge of being mandatory in my opinion as this lens can flare quite easily if your light source enters the frame. 

[John Perkins]

if that's so then the conclusion is that they are all perfectly adequate and to all intensive purposes identical. However I do not believe it is so.

That's not what I am saying at all. What I am saying if you take random shots from different people, without some control on the shots being taken/processed, then you are comparing a differences between a whole lot more things than lens performance. Controlled doesn't mean laboratory. It means there are controls on the test to ensure the differences you are comparing are actually due to the thing you are trying to isolate and compare.

[Kate]

Go to http://www.antiquecameras.net/leica28mmmlenses.html for details of the various pre-asph 28 Elmarits. Mine is the E46mm and is a wonderful lens (was told by someone at Leica Mayfair that it was considered optically superior to the asph replacement).

 

 

the overview at antiquecameras.net is genius, thanks for sharing. 

 

But how do I know which version has the 6bit coding. 

 

I am currently seeking a used Elmarit 28mm for my Monochrom (first edition) and think I need a 6 bit coded one to make it work ? 

 

Thanks

[fotomas]

But how do I know which version has the 6bit coding. 

 

I am currently seeking a used Elmarit 28mm for my Monochrom (first edition) and think I need a 6 bit coded one to make it work ? 

 

Thanks

I'm afraid only the last version of the Elmarit and Summicron come with 6bit-coding originally. Older lenses could and may have been coded afterwords, but you have to check this out.

 

You can also use it uncoded on the MM9. You can choose the right lens in the menu manually. May be annoying if you often change the lens.

 

If you leave the camera on auto-lens-recognition it will be treated as uncoded. This can lead to some uncorrected issues, depending how good the lens works with that camera. Probably mostly darker corners. Color-shift at the edges you can ignore with an MM.

 

Regards

 

Frank

 

 

[microview]

If you use the menu to select a manual setting for the lens and then swap for a coded lens, Lightroom will tell you your later pics were taken with the <menu selected> lens type – if you forgot to go back into <auto lens detection>. But as Frank says, your uncoded lens will work perfectly well on your Monochrom. Nothing to worry over.

[Kate]

If you use the menu to select a manual setting for the lens and then swap for a coded lens, Lightroom will tell you your later pics were taken with the <menu selected> lens type – if you forgot to go back into <auto lens detection>. But as Frank says, your uncoded lens will work perfectly well on your Monochrom. Nothing to worry over.

 

 

thanks ! i just bought an uncoded Elmarit 28mm IV and looking forward to trying it out. Even if it has some vignetting then I would classify it as the charming character of the lens ! 

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