Paulus Posted December 8, 2015 Share #441 Posted December 8, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) $859.50 each. Is that the resale price? When Leica replaced my M8 sensor the repair was : € 771,98 ex VAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 8, 2015 Posted December 8, 2015 Hi Paulus, Take a look here Leica M (Typ 262) - Reduction to Rangefinder Photography (at 1000 € less). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jdlaing Posted December 8, 2015 Share #442 Posted December 8, 2015 Is that the resale price? When Leica replaced my M8 sensor the repair was : € 771,98 ex VAT That is the original cost for an M - 240 sensor. M - 8 was much less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted December 8, 2015 Share #443 Posted December 8, 2015 One should not raise false expectations either. The fact Leica offers: - A 24mm external optical viewfinder - A 1.4x rangefinder magnifier, "recommended for focal lengths 75mm or more" (cited from Leica site) Should be enough for the average person to understand the RF limitations. Then again, this is for us normal people. Other forum users are free to use their special super-powers. In other words, start practising fifty years ago? And amazingly, the very same techniques still work... using the viewfinder edges as a framing device, and focusing a 90mm f/2 lens... and without additional expense for an external finder, magnifier, or $900 electronic gizmo. Amazing I tell you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted December 8, 2015 Share #444 Posted December 8, 2015 $859.50 each. You really think Leica is paying that amount for each sensor ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted December 8, 2015 Share #445 Posted December 8, 2015 And amazingly, the very same techniques still work... using the viewfinder edges as a framing device, and focusing a 90mm f/2 lens... and without additional expense for an external finder, magnifier, or $900 electronic gizmo. Amazing I tell you! $900 ? I paid $150 on Amazon for the M240 EVF. I know all the other techniques, but I leave them to Wile E Coyote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted December 8, 2015 Share #446 Posted December 8, 2015 You really think Leica is paying that amount for each sensor ? To the penny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Frog Posted December 12, 2015 Share #447 Posted December 12, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Umm, new M262 looks like M9 body with CMOS 24mp sensor instead of CCD 18mp sensor merely. I'm sure that LV is very useful in case of magnifier focusing and telephoto lens using and video recording function on Leica lens is still powerful advantage, I guess that M262 won't hit the Leica user target same as the ME version of M9, because of the characteristic of Leica user is to find the best or better not the cheaper one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted December 12, 2015 Share #448 Posted December 12, 2015 Umm, new M262 looks like M9 body with CMOS 24mp sensor instead of CCD 18mp sensor merely. No, it is a downgraded M240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 12, 2015 Share #449 Posted December 12, 2015 No, it is a downgraded M240. Some might say simplified, and lighter, with an upgraded shutter re-cock system. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted December 12, 2015 Share #450 Posted December 12, 2015 No, it is a downgraded M240. I thought it was a modification of ( or downgraded as you say ) the M240P? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 12, 2015 Share #451 Posted December 12, 2015 I thought it was a modification of ( or downgraded as you say ) the M240P? No, doesn't have sapphire screen, 2GB buffer, frame preview lever, script at top, removal of red dot (although smaller than M240 dot), or removal of rear script. It does, however, remove the M logo like the M-P, and offers things that neither the M240, nor the M-P offers, as in my above post. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojobear Posted December 14, 2015 Share #452 Posted December 14, 2015 Seems like the a a la carte also allows this: "....Regarding the functionality the customer can decide wether he needs the video mode and which frame selection lever to use." Leica: spelling mistake on wether (!!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojobear Posted December 14, 2015 Share #453 Posted December 14, 2015 I have found numerous spelling mistakes on Leica dealer websites as well. If you email them they will correct them. I hope that should I buy a new Leica it doesn't have "mistakes" in the production! I would like to be employed as their proofreader! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted December 14, 2015 Share #454 Posted December 14, 2015 No, doesn't have sapphire screen, 2GB buffer, frame preview lever, script at top, removal of red dot (although smaller than M240 dot), or removal of rear script. It does, however, remove the M logo like the M-P, and offers things that neither the M240, nor the M-P offers, as in my above post. Jeff Yes you'r right I was mistaken with the M a la carte version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted December 21, 2015 Share #455 Posted December 21, 2015 I tried the M262 today in München at Leica bei Meister. ( Nice salesman! ) Was not really impressed. I looks nice. Does not really feel much lighter. Shutter is interesting. I had my MP and M 240 for comparisson: My " verdict " is , that the sound feels/ resembles a bit the MP 1/15 second sound. The motor transport and shuttermovement at the same time make this noise that lasts alsmost a 1/15. It's really something different. Nice " Leica " sound. But,, I would not buy a Leica M262 next to my M 240 because the difference is IMHO not enough. Also I regret that this camera will not appear in chrome like the real chrome of the M 240 or my MP chrome. That's maybe not possible with aluminium. The little red dot looks al little bit " out of tune " on the camera, like it is a stranger in a strange place. I cannot describe the feeling another way. Maybe when Leica omitted the red dot, my feeling of a balanced camera would be better. The reason that Leica made the red dot bigger with the M 240 was , as I recall, also to distract from the omission of the " third eye " in the camera. Now that it has made smaller I can see why it was not such a bad idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lax Jought Posted December 22, 2015 Share #456 Posted December 22, 2015 Also I regret that this camera will not appear in chrome like the real chrome of the M 240 or my MP chrome. That's maybe not possible with aluminium. I'm sad to hear that, I really like the classic silver/chrome look. Also, I have a chrome/silver elmarit that would look out of place on a black camera body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted December 22, 2015 Share #457 Posted December 22, 2015 One concern might be the wearing of the top plate, to judge from the vulnerability of black Leica lenses. For example although I did so with extreme care, fitting a lens hood to my new 90 f4 Macro left three indents from the claws on the hood. On the other hand my Chord DAC is anodised black finish on aluminium and remains pristine after three or four years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunhoy Posted December 22, 2015 Share #458 Posted December 22, 2015 Wow, this would have been more practical for me. I've not used the video function nor liveview on my M Typ240 ever. I couldn't agree more... were I buying today it would be the 262 not the 240 for me... one wonders how many M240 users shoot video (<5%? or use live view <10% I suspect)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaFFM Posted December 23, 2015 Share #459 Posted December 23, 2015 I couldn't agree more... were I buying today it would be the 262 not the 240 for me... one wonders how many M240 users shoot video (<5%? or use live view <10% I suspect)... What? My M240 has video??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted December 23, 2015 Share #460 Posted December 23, 2015 …and a button for focus aid in live view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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