leica dream Posted October 26, 2015 Share #1 Posted October 26, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) As there have been no responses I think I may have posted the following under the wrong "post V-Lux images here" thread, so apologies for duplication. I have a V-Lux1 which is now 10 years old and I have loved every minute of it.........................until I got a new Leica C this year. I took both on hiliday to Switzerland last month and have posted a couple of comparison shots on the Leica C thread at www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/237139-leica-c-images-post-them-here/page-6 . The results disturb be greatly, because I thought what I was getting from my V-Lux1 was excellent already but that is now in doubt. I guess that always seeing the images one does not notice different or fading quality until it stands out in front of you. OK it is a V-Lux1, and I do realise that software has developed faster than one can imagine over the last 10 years. The versatility of the V-Lux remains wonderful, but is so outshone this time by the little C when I took comparison shots. Is it possible to get, say, a software update for my V-Lux1 to to bring it up near to the 114 standard, or does anybody have any other idea to restore previously cracking images -----or what I have always thought were cracking images. My inclination at the moment is to use my new C as my prime camera with the V as secondary. I tried to sell my V-Lux 1 on the forum before buying the C but maybe the quality of that age is is not what people expect in this fast moving digital age. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JimOhioUSA Posted October 26, 2015 Share #2 Posted October 26, 2015 As there have been no responses I think I may have posted the following under the wrong "post V-Lux images here" thread, so apologies for duplication. I have a V-Lux1 which is now 10 years old and I have loved every minute of it.........................until I got a new Leica C this year. I took both on hiliday to Switzerland last month and have posted a couple of comparison shots on the Leica C thread at www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/237139-leica-c-images-post-them-here/page-6 . The results disturb be greatly, because I thought what I was getting from my V-Lux1 was excellent already but that is now in doubt. I guess that always seeing the images one does not notice different or fading quality until it stands out in front of you. OK it is a V-Lux1, and I do realise that software has developed faster than one can imagine over the last 10 years. The versatility of the V-Lux remains wonderful, but is so outshone this time by the little C when I took comparison shots. Is it possible to get, say, a software update for my V-Lux1 to to bring it up near to the 114 standard, or does anybody have any other idea to restore previously cracking images -----or what I have always thought were cracking images. My inclination at the moment is to use my new C as my prime camera with the V as secondary. I tried to sell my V-Lux 1 on the forum before buying the C but maybe the quality of that age is is not what people expect in this fast moving digital age. Richard Richard I have 2 Leica V-Lux 1's I really like both of them. Yes, older cameras and digital tech. I've been disapointed lately with the V-Lux 1 color pallete and saturation. Seems everything is looks washed out. In my experience every Leica does a few things well. The only one that I've found that does most all things well...is out of my price range for now anyways. Bottom line.....I don't know. I hope there are other Leica bridge camera owners who can throw some light on the the firmware or even settings tweaks for the V-Lux 1. I love the V-Lux 1 cameras, size, feel, hold, but it's alchemy to get the right settings in the right situations every consistantly. Hit or miss. There must be some Tips. The C series are very nice looking cameras. I personally won't purchase one only in that I have 3 Leica compacts. If I could sell them and afford an M, X, or Q series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted October 27, 2015 Share #3 Posted October 27, 2015 I've had the Panasonic immediate predecessor of the V-Lux 1, borrowed a V-Lux 2 from Leica, have a V-lux 4, and now a V Lux 114. Each has been significantly better than the one before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted October 27, 2015 Share #4 Posted October 27, 2015 The 'c' does not get a lot of attention or 'respect', but it is an amazing pocket camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted October 27, 2015 Share #5 Posted October 27, 2015 The 'c' does not get a lot of attention or 'respect', but it is an amazing pocket camera. I agree. It does seem to be the Cinderella of the Leica range. I do not actually have a "C" but I have its Panasonic clone, the LF1, which I bought before the Leica version came out. It is remarkable how much has been packed into a very small body. It is one of the few cameras that can be carried in a shirt pocket. The EVF is rather crude but I found it invaluable during a holiday in the Australian sunshine. It also has quite useful video capabilities. I do not use video much but it can be fun to do short video clips of family events, children'parties and the like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted October 27, 2015 Share #6 Posted October 27, 2015 I do not actually have a "C" but I have its Panasonic clone, the LF1, which I bought before the Leica version came out. Actually the Leica version is a clone of the Panasonic. Panasonic uses the Leica name on their lens, and in return they have to allow Leica to make their own 'version' of the camera's. This counts for all the Leica compact cameras. Leica has to do this because technology wise they can't keep up (with all the electronics inside those compacts) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted October 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) It looks like Stuart's experience says it all - the V-Lux1 is what it is. I guess that the super little "C" just epitomises progress, no matter who actually makes it. I agree that the EVF is not its best feature, but having just one eye I find that it is essential over the screen. I would have gone for the better D-Lux but that is just not pocketable. The V-Lux range is so versatile for the amateur who does not want to carry around different lenses as the range of the fitted lens is quite remarkable. I tried to sell my camera last year to upgrade and the best offer was £50 from dealers - no offers from this buy/sell site. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted November 3, 2015 After continuing my research I am now really upset that there appears absolutely nothing which this technical age can do for some sort of "upgrade" to my V-Lux. Strange, because I had never thought of Leica products having built in obsolescence. I know that we live in a throw away society these days, but when one buys a quality product one does not expect it to fade so soon even if technology is moving forward at a terrific rate. Surprise, surprise, everywhere is very keen to sell me a new type 114 expecting me to throw my existing camers on the rubbish heap. Sorry, but I have completely lost confidence in Leica for such lack of backup. Sensors and software have come on leaps in 10 years but it just appears that once one has purchased the latest "best idea of the day" with no fall back except to buy another later on. As a rank amateur who just aims for perfection this is not an affordable option. I am not sure what I expected to be able to be done, maybe a strip and replace with upgraded sensor and software or something so the excellent optics can keep up. I guess my only option now is to continue use as before then Photoshop RAW stuff for improvements. It has been very noticeable that whereas my V-Lux shots from my holiday every one needs adjustments, yet those from the little C can be used straight out of camera most of the time. Enough groaning, but I had to express my misgivings. Thanks for reading this far. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted November 4, 2015 Share #9 Posted November 4, 2015 Before long your excellent C will be surpassed. Same goes for all other manufacturers' digital cameras. Digital technology changes at least an order of magnitude faster than analogue cameras, so I think your disappointment could be out of date. Your original V-Lux is still a good camera. It's just that technology continually advances. I've found with every digital camera I've tried at least some post processing can improve the4 results. Though I've not processed C photos I suspect as good as the images are without processing, they can be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted November 4, 2015 Of course you are correct, Stuart, and I do realise the circumstances. I still love my V-Lux but compared with portability and quality of my little C I feel that the C will probably be first choice for casual shooting from now on, with the V for more defined outings like holidays. Such is life where progress is faster than we all appreciate. Your "calming" words are most welcome! Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted November 23, 2015 Share #11 Posted November 23, 2015 You are correct, Leica Dream, but the other "new reality" is that the older gear has a much more accessible resale market. Leica dealers will offer you 80% of the fair market value on your trade, or 70% if you want to cash out. With eBay, or some of the other 'private' camera sites, it is easy to 1. figure out fair market value, 2. sell your old gear outright, and/or 3. purchase your "newer technology gear" on the second hand market for a substantial savings over retail. A thought: sell your V Lux 4 to a Leica dealer and take the $350 (?) they give you and buy a pre owned Panasonic FZ 1000 (Leica V Lux 114 clone) on eBay for $600-650. You have upgraded for $300 and that should be good for the next 3-5 years, before the next "latest-greatest" bridge camera arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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