jaapv Posted February 22, 2016 Share #41 Posted February 22, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, as I said in the first thread; something had to give. The wind topled a tripod of around 5kg in addtion to the weight of M + WATE. The camera landed on a small bump of the ground, so it took the full weight. Max unluck. Imo the qiuck release of tripod if any could have been designed as the weakest point? I havent compared to other cameas, but I regard the M tripod mount as solid. If this had been a M9 the bottom plate only would have been damaged, but Im more happy with the M tripod mount. I can guaranty you that on an M9 the bodyshell would be broken too, either on the side of the lock or the retaining pin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jmahto Posted February 22, 2016 Share #42 Posted February 22, 2016 After dropping a camera from tripod (fortunately no damage. Nex6+Konica 35mm hexanon), I learned the following: - Never leave the camera unattended on tall tripods. For longer time lapse shots I use table tripod. - Keep strap wrapped on the wrist while shooting. - Never drink while shooting. (This is how I tripped over my own tripod). Now I am going to design a self inflatable protection devise with tilt sensor. Can't wait to be multi millionaire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted February 22, 2016 Share #43 Posted February 22, 2016 "Never drink while shooting. (This is how I tripped over my own tripod)." Please no..... this combines two of my favorite hobbies....Can I still drink and shoot as long as I am really careful......or insured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted February 22, 2016 Share #44 Posted February 22, 2016 WOW, what a story! I missed this thread in its time only read today, so bad story with a good ending! And beautiful photo... robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted February 23, 2016 Share #45 Posted February 23, 2016 Well, as I said in the first thread; something had to give. The wind topled a tripod of around 5kg in addtion to the weight of M + WATE. The camera landed on a small bump of the ground, so it took the full weight. Max unluck. Imo the qiuck release of tripod if any could have been designed as the weakest point? I havent compared to other cameas, but I regard the M tripod mount as solid. If this had been a M9 the bottom plate only would have been damaged, but Im more happy with the M tripod mount. Trust me... I feel your pain. I was doing a commercial shoot with a model in a barn a few years ago with an Olympus E5 and the marvelous Olympus 35-100 f/2 zoom (probably the most favorite lens I've ever owned.) I had an Olympus flash unit on the shoe tethered to a battery pack. We took a break from shooting, and rather than set my gear on the ground (as per my usual habit) I perched it up on the front deck of a ski boat on a trailer that was being stored in the barn. I forgot about the battery coil cord and turned to walk away. The camera, lens and flash followed on the leash. I watched in horror as the whole thing plunged to the concrete floor... and then as if in slow-motion, watched the lens separate from the body as they went two different directions. The metal lens mount had pulled out of the lens completely. I picked the camera and flash up, took the mount out of the bayonet, fitted another lens and continued the shoot. $200 and three weeks later the 35-100 was returned in new condition. Years before, I had an M4-2 blow over on a tripod onto large boulders too... yep... shit happens... and that's what insurance is for! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmx_2 Posted February 24, 2016 Share #46 Posted February 24, 2016 S After dropping a camera from tripod (fortunately no damage. Nex6+Konica 35mm hexanon), I learned the following: - Never leave the camera unattended on tall tripods. For longer time lapse shots I use table tripod. - Keep strap wrapped on the wrist while shooting. - Never drink while shooting. (This is how I tripped over my own tripod). Now I am going to design a self inflatable protection devise with tilt sensor. Can't wait to be multi millionaire. Something like this ?: http://www.hovding.com/?lang=en Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmx_2 Posted February 24, 2016 Share #47 Posted February 24, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) "Never drink while shooting. (This is how I tripped over my own tripod)." Please no..... this combines two of my favorite hobbies....Can I still drink and shoot as long as I am really careful......or insured? "Shot responsibly" ?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted February 24, 2016 Share #48 Posted February 24, 2016 S Something like this ?: http://www.hovding.com/?lang=en Damn !! Someone stole my idea !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyalf Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share #49 Posted February 24, 2016 ... yep... shit happens... and that's what insurance is for! Thanks! I have a long time ago decided to do self-insurance whenever I can. So far Im still having black numbers :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted February 24, 2016 Share #50 Posted February 24, 2016 Thanks! I have a long time ago decided to do self-insurance whenever I can. So far Im still having black numbers :-) If you're a hobbyist, then all you're concerned about is your gear. I'd probably not carry insurance for it either... but when you're shooting as a business the larger concern is both liability and errors and omissions coverage. You can get taken to the cleaners if something happens while you're shooting, or if you fail to deliver product on contract. Having your gear covered is nice, but is just an included feature on the larger liability coverage policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted February 24, 2016 Share #51 Posted February 24, 2016 As a working professional I carried insurance ...a lot of insurance.....If a light fell on a model I was covered,etc...... but after 15years I cut out the camera specific portion of the policy. I too choose self insurance. I shot 50% studio 50%location ....on location was where the risk was. I realized by nature I was careful specifically regarding theft and damage It just seems like a bad gamble...and lets face it insurance is legalized gambling ...call it luck (thats what my agent called it) I'm way way ahead of the game. Now that I'm retired and travel, where the "odds" of theft are great I find theft insurance important and comforting to have. I hate insurance. always have, some of its important but for the most part we're over sold and over insured its all about fear Any agents on the forum? Sure there are most insurance are rich and can afford Leica's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted February 24, 2016 Share #52 Posted February 24, 2016 Any agents on the forum? Sure there are most insurance are rich and can afford Leica's Oh, c'mon. Don't be silly. You know that insurance agents aren't wealthy enough to afford Leica! We're all dentists here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted February 24, 2016 Share #53 Posted February 24, 2016 Insurance is a gamble and a pain. I hate all the disclaimers in policy documents. If something goes wrong the insurers rely on Ts&Cs to extract themselves from liability. Read their Ts&Cs and follow them to the letter. I pay about 170 GBP per annum for insurance of most of my kit. Some kit is uninsured because it is locked away and will soon be sold. Today I walked about 6 miles (10km) on slippery, muddy surfaces through woodland. Had I slipped and broken the kit I was carrying it would cost 9000 GBP to replace. Is a small premium really that expensive considering the peace of mind it brings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted February 24, 2016 Share #54 Posted February 24, 2016 Leicas don't belong on tripods Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 24, 2016 Share #55 Posted February 24, 2016 ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted February 24, 2016 Share #56 Posted February 24, 2016 Leicas don't belong on tripods Telescopes belong on tripods. However, I have just been asked for an assignment that requires a tripod. Do I have to change my camera so I can use the tripod? I don't think so. Please be constructive in your comments. What is the value of posting for the sake of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 24, 2016 Share #57 Posted February 24, 2016 Leica is going to issue a special edition M-Imants without tripod bush at a bargain 18.500 $ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted February 24, 2016 Share #58 Posted February 24, 2016 I thought Imants was a Leica special edition - a sort of Kravitz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted February 25, 2016 Share #59 Posted February 25, 2016 Oh Boy - FaceTime -> Leica User Only...Face 2 Face Forum.. (Maybe they will have an embedded direct line to Leica Service!!).. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted February 25, 2016 Share #60 Posted February 25, 2016 Yes you have to change your camera though a S2 is acceptable ............... rangefinders type cameras were created for their mobility and a small lenses just like the Leica hero Henri Cartier-Bresson............ leave your tripod and bag of lenses home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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