DigitalHeMan Posted September 27, 2015 Share #21 Posted September 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Never use a 50mm lens for tight portraits. Basic stuff. I must have missed class the day they covered that rule..... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 27, 2015 Posted September 27, 2015 Hi DigitalHeMan, Take a look here The 90mm Summicron APO for portraits. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
NB23 Posted September 27, 2015 Share #22 Posted September 27, 2015 Or perhaps, more realistically, you never took classes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 27, 2015 Share #23 Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Here are some portraits I have done with the M (Typ 240) and Summilux-M 50mm ASPH. #1 NOT cropped Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 27, 2015 by jip Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/250479-the-90mm-summicron-apo-for-portraits/?do=findComment&comment=2894955'>More sharing options...
jip Posted September 27, 2015 Share #24 Posted September 27, 2015 #2 NOT cropped Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/250479-the-90mm-summicron-apo-for-portraits/?do=findComment&comment=2894957'>More sharing options...
jip Posted September 27, 2015 Share #25 Posted September 27, 2015 #3 NOT cropped Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/250479-the-90mm-summicron-apo-for-portraits/?do=findComment&comment=2894959'>More sharing options...
jip Posted September 27, 2015 Share #26 Posted September 27, 2015 #4 Cropped vertical from a horizontal shot (plenty of pixels on the M240) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/250479-the-90mm-summicron-apo-for-portraits/?do=findComment&comment=2894960'>More sharing options...
lct Posted September 27, 2015 Share #27 Posted September 27, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nice pics but NB23 said " tight portraits". 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted September 27, 2015 Share #28 Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) You see #3, where her hand is Bigger than their faces? That's what 50mm does. Excellent for environmental portraits, full body and so on. But not for head and shoulders unless you want to introduce very unflattering distortions. That is all very basic knowledge Edited September 27, 2015 by NB23 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted September 27, 2015 Share #29 Posted September 27, 2015 I have to agree with Mr Cat earlier........ The 90/2 wide open is barely usable on an M ....... and both RF and lens have to be exactly calibrated for all distances to get consistent results. I found it more difficult to use than the nocti 50/0.95 ..... where at least you have a large diameter body and longer throw to allow more accurate adjustment when focussing. This is the one Leica lens I did not like, could not get consistent results with and sold fairly quickly. The 75/2 in contrast is a delight to use and much easier ....... there are minimal downsides to losing 15mm of FL and major benefits. (although this is another lens with pesky floating elements..... and Leica took several goes to get it adjusted correctly) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 27, 2015 Share #30 Posted September 27, 2015 I have to agree with Mr Cat earlier........ The 90/2 wide open is barely usable on an M ...[...] Beware of cats! My 90/2 apo works as well as my other (good) lenses as long as i don't ask the impossible from it e.g. to be perfectly sharp on closeups because it is a bit soft there but everybody knows that already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 27, 2015 Share #31 Posted September 27, 2015 Tight portraits... Sure but tight portraits aren't done with a 50. Period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted September 27, 2015 Share #32 Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) You see #3, where her hand is Bigger than their faces? That's what 50mm does. [...] That is all very basic knowledge Yes, even kids know that nearer objects look bigger But what's wrong with that ? There are no rules for art. Overall, I find portraits with wide angles (even ultra wides) much more interesting and "real" than boring by-the-book tele portraits. Edited September 27, 2015 by CheshireCat 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 27, 2015 Share #33 Posted September 27, 2015 You must like big noses i guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted September 27, 2015 Share #34 Posted September 27, 2015 Or perhaps, more realistically, you never took classes? There is no reason to be nasty, even insulting. Where is it written that 50mm cannot be used for portraits? IMHO, a good eye and good technique are more important than following someone else's rules. Do you have some comparisons you would like to post to demonstrate the validity of the "rule"? I have tried the 90 Summicron too and abandoned it for much the same reasons other have stated. I will sometimes use the Macro Elmar 90 f/4, which is easier to manage, and I will sometimes use a 50mm too. The APO 50 is not the ideal lens for portraits but here is one that works -- at least I think so. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/250479-the-90mm-summicron-apo-for-portraits/?do=findComment&comment=2895050'>More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted September 27, 2015 Share #35 Posted September 27, 2015 You must like big noses i guess. The fact you can use perspective to render big noses, does not mean you have to But I may agree that most people don't know how to use perspective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 27, 2015 Share #36 Posted September 27, 2015 Hos do you use perspective in a head and shoulders portrait? Just curious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 27, 2015 Share #37 Posted September 27, 2015 You see #3, where her hand is Bigger than their faces? That's what 50mm does. Excellent for environmental portraits, full body and so on. But not for head and shoulders unless you want to introduce very unflattering distortions. That is all very basic knowledge Isn't the hand supposed to get the emphasis in that shot? Excellent use of perspective, There are times that basics should be used. Often, actually. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted September 27, 2015 Share #38 Posted September 27, 2015 Or perhaps, more realistically, you never took classes? It's good to know that you aren't selective with your rudeness on the forum. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 27, 2015 Share #39 Posted September 27, 2015 Douglas do let us know your impressions .... i am very happy with mine. the EVF-2, i tried it .... egghhh - wasn't a fan but perhaps should take another look. i would like to get a 135mm for some "once in a while" usage but i'm scared about trying to focus that lens at anything other than infinity I have no trouble with 135 lenses using the EVF-2. It IS worth a try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 27, 2015 Share #40 Posted September 27, 2015 That is why I find the 75mm a nice compromise. Easier to focus than a 90 but can give results that can be made to be close to a 50 or to a 90 (provided you have space to move in or move out). I think that this focal length is undeservedly under appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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