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Noctilux f1 sold on eBay for £2400!


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Looking through the "Leica Deals" at the bottom of the forum, I notice that there are very few to zero bids on all items. It appears to me that Leica gear is not moving. In a stagnating market, expect good opportunities.

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Don't. "Inherited from my grandfather" may be true, but on eBay it is a dodgy phrase.

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Don't. "Inherited from my grandfather" may be true, but on eBay it is a dodgy phrase.

The other good one is, Genuine reason for sale. Faulty or just plain knackered is a genuine reason.

I find eBay a very good place to sell unwanted things and also buy all sort of items that are no longer easy to get through normal retail. 

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Looking for a 35 ASPH fle I was persumably some minutes to late to buy one of those lenses...with a nice M9 attached to it as its rearcap for € 3750. Guess how I am feeling...

Wow. I just paid £2450 for a MINT as brand new FLE. But your price with M9 seems a steal.

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There's a few other warning signs IMHO. The 'inheritence' thing is always a red flag.

 

The listing states a 14 day return period but in the text he says items must be returned within 7 days if the buyer is unhappy.

 

He states items can not be collected, but in the last sold items on feedback (two expensive watches) the seller offered collection as an option.

 

Most of his listings end around Friday evening and he says he can only post items on a Saturday. I wonder if there will be some reason why they can't be posted this Saturday.....

 

However, there is an email and contact phone number shown in the contact details, so I guess interested parties could try phoning the seller.....

 

It could be genuine, but there's too many doubtful points for me if I was looking for one of his items.

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I've seen some surprising things on ebay. Some expensive lenses go very cheaply and I think there is genuine good luck timing.

 

But Looking at recent Leica used prices, it looks like they have all dropped quite significantly and quite quickly in all but a few items. There is certainly no shortage of supply. On top of that Leica have being offering things on sale for extended periods and slashing the Retail Price of the S by $8000. I've never seen Leica offering sales before. There certainly are some alarm bells ringing, but perhaps it's temporary, perhaps it's just the new CEO's adjustments. Though, perhaps, it should be no surprise when companies like Sony are doing things so well, offering so much and so cheaply, and Zeiss offerings are keeping up with, or besting Leica equivalents in performance and build, at a fraction of the cost.

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Well had you bid, the price would have been higher. That truly was a steal, and looks fine. Chinese buyers have helped keep lens prices high, but have less money now. Add to that the usual fall collapse.

 

M240 now is no problem at 4K USD

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But Looking at recent Leica used prices, it looks like they have all dropped quite significantly in all but a few items. There is certainly no shortage of supply. On top of that Leica have being offering things on sale for extended periods and slashing the Retail Price of the S by $8000. I've never seen Leica offering sales before. There certainly are some alarm bells ringing, but perhaps it's temporary, perhaps it's just the new CEO's adjustments.

 

Camera sales have been in the doldrums for a while now and Leica are no exception (and after the heady days of 2011-12 possibly have the furthest to fall). It may vary a little by region and there have been temporary upsurges in interest and sales with new products like the Q but if you speak to anyone honest in the business they will tell you that Leica sales have been slow (at best). In my opinion there are a number of factors at play. Some are structural, like the market shift from system cameras; economic conditions in key markets; and that, in reaching a certain level of quality and functionality, it becomes harder to shift new "better" products. Other factors IMO include a general cooling of interest in the Leica brand. Fashion is cyclical and Leica no longer seems like the hottest name in town. You only have to look at the slow discussion in this forum regarding a lot of the new products to see this cooling of interest in Leica. The Q seems to be the only product that still has legs (cf. M246 and T discussions).

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Can't help, but the pictures of this auction on german ebay (honest seller) look very similar to these, whatever this may mean... http://www.ebay.de/itm/LEICA-Noctilux-M-1-50-3434502-50mm-TOMS-CAMERA-LADEN-Ankauf-Verkauf-/301739866711

 

I feel easy now for not winning, although I did bid. This was clearly a bogus auction. I too read the blurb about no personal collections but wanted to bid and collect myself via prior arrangement. I live only a few miles from the seller, if that was actually his/ her real address. I agree, if its too good to be true, it often is!

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Camera sales have been in the doldrums for a while now and Leica are no exception (and after the heady days of 2011-12 possibly have the furthest to fall). It may vary a little by region and there have been temporary upsurges in interest and sales with new products like the Q but if you speak to anyone honest in the business they will tell you that Leica sales have been slow (at best). In my opinion there are a number of factors at play. Some are structural, like the market shift from system cameras; economic conditions in key markets; and that, in reaching a certain level of quality and functionality, it becomes harder to shift new "better" products. Other factors IMO include a general cooling of interest in the Leica brand. Fashion is cyclical and Leica no longer seems like the hottest name in town. You only have to look at the slow discussion in this forum regarding a lot of the new products to see this cooling of interest in Leica. The Q seems to be the only product that still has legs (cf. M246 and T discussions).

 

Perhaps... some interesting points.

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Can't help, but the pictures of this auction on german ebay (honest seller) look very similar to these, whatever this may mean... http://www.ebay.de/itm/LEICA-Noctilux-M-1-50-3434502-50mm-TOMS-CAMERA-LADEN-Ankauf-Verkauf-/301739866711

Hmmm..the same images you say -this German auction was removed by eBay :rolleyes:

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