jaapv Posted September 17, 2015 Share #21 Posted September 17, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 Hi jaapv, Take a look here Leica programmers should all be ashamed of the complete shambles of metadata they have created. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jdlaing Posted September 17, 2015 Share #22 Posted September 17, 2015 Correct. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted September 17, 2015 Share #23 Posted September 17, 2015 As they say in Italy "can happen even into a good family"... Or as we say in Germany: “Das kommt in den besten Familien vor.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Esslinger Posted September 18, 2015 Share #24 Posted September 18, 2015 But the incorrect EXIF data does affect users - the ImageUniqueId and RawDataUniqueIds are not unique and cause duplicate preview problems in Lightroom and Bridge - we regularly get posts on this forum about it. See http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/243584-m240-or-memory-card-overwrites-when-it-shouldnt/?p=2797970 for details. Jonathan The duplicate preview problems are a permanent nuisance and cost time (I often work on a 13" Macbook Pro which is very weak on graphics). This error was not existent in the M8 and Leica should long have corrected it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted September 18, 2015 Share #25 Posted September 18, 2015 Frankly I find it bizarre for someone to argue that Leica doesn't need to fix their firmware issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 18, 2015 Share #26 Posted September 18, 2015 Frankly I find it bizarre for someone to argue that Leica doesn't need to fix their firmware issues. I don't see a firmware issue in this thread ???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 18, 2015 Share #27 Posted September 18, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, file numbering is a function of the firmware... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 18, 2015 Share #28 Posted September 18, 2015 Do you guys really rely on file numbering from the camera ???? That's so 1990s .... I import files into a folder structure on my hard disk based on date and place and then zap them into lightroom Based on the amount of cameras I have had, I have loads of duplicate file names, for example, inconsistent sequences, etc. but if one uses a folder structure its all irrelevant You can even use copy utilities which normalise names if you want, free and easy batch copying like in irfanview ... In terms of EXiF, the basics are fine, aperture, speed, name of camera (e.g. Fuji Frontier ). The only thing I would like is my Zeiss 35mm f1.4 ZM not to come up as a Leica 35mm f1.4 FLE but that's solvable if I could be bothered .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted September 18, 2015 Share #29 Posted September 18, 2015 Red herring! Leica needs to fix their firmware! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 18, 2015 Share #30 Posted September 18, 2015 The problem is not so much the photographer relying on the number in Exif, as some software doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 18, 2015 Share #31 Posted September 18, 2015 Do you guys really rely on file numbering from the camera ???? That's so 1990s .... I import files into a folder structure on my hard disk based on date and place and then zap them into lightroom Whatever for? Lightroom does that for you on import. And makes a backup on a regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted September 18, 2015 Share #32 Posted September 18, 2015 Whatever for? Lightroom does that for you on import. And makes a backup on a regular basis. But only correctly in all cases if Leica fixes their firmware. That's the issue IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 18, 2015 Share #33 Posted September 18, 2015 Thousands of images and I have never had a problem with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted September 18, 2015 Share #34 Posted September 18, 2015 Lucky you, you never got a duplicate ID. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 18, 2015 Share #35 Posted September 18, 2015 Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 18, 2015 Share #36 Posted September 18, 2015 Thousands of images and I have never had a problem with it. Me too... but depends on your way of working... the issue IS THERE and I admit that one can feel it annoying... even if, in software terms, is not a "disruptive issue", in the sense that you risk net LOSS of data (*) : you have an external application that does not manage correctly data when used in some way... considering that the "external application" (Lightroom) is provided by the seller itself (Leica), bundled with its product, one can expect that it works 99,99% right with the "seller's software" (100%, anyway, doesn't exist in the Software world... ) (*) or maybe yes ? I haven't tried/analyzed if, working in a certain manner, and of course ERASING the card, can be that some DNG can be lost forever.... I doubt... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted September 18, 2015 Share #37 Posted September 18, 2015 Do you guys really rely on file numbering from the camera ???? That's so 1990s .... I import files into a folder structure on my hard disk based on date and place and then zap them into lightroom Based on the amount of cameras I have had, I have loads of duplicate file names, for example, inconsistent sequences, etc. but if one uses a folder structure its all irrelevant You can even use copy utilities which normalise names if you want, free and easy batch copying like in irfanview ... In terms of EXiF, the basics are fine, aperture, speed, name of camera (e.g. Fuji Frontier ). The only thing I would like is my Zeiss 35mm f1.4 ZM not to come up as a Leica 35mm f1.4 FLE but that's solvable if I could be bothered .... I don't think you fully understand the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted September 18, 2015 Share #38 Posted September 18, 2015 Me too... but depends on your way of working... the issue IS THERE and I admit that one can feel it annoying... even if, in software terms, is not a "disruptive issue", in the sense that you risk net LOSS of data : you have an external application that does not manage correctly data when used in some way... considering that the "external application" (Lightroom) is provided by the seller itself (Leica), bundled with its product, one can expect that it works 99,99% right with the "seller's software" (100%, anyway, doesn't exist in the Software world... How have you managed to avoid it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dao De Leitz Posted September 18, 2015 Share #39 Posted September 18, 2015 Jenoptik? Correct. addendum / supplement: The eletronics is known to be from Jenoptik (Info) (/ Zeiss(Photo) ). Thorsten AW #40 Jaap: Sorry, wrong topic. The answer relates only to the M8, M9. (;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 18, 2015 Share #40 Posted September 18, 2015 But only on the M8 and M9. The M240 is by Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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