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I've had the 007 for a week now and have put it through a test while traveling with friends in Romania. Out of about 300 images I took, two came out like this. Not a good start for a camera that cost 18 thousand Euro. And no, I am not going to engage in any discussion about memory cards because, to my knowledge, no  camera maker other than Leica has ever had any problem with memory cards. Perhaps I should start writing my own reviews of Leica cameras, to balance the romantic poetry and prose published by the various Davids, Jonos and Seans whose cameras never fail to deliver amazing pictures. I am getting fed up with Leica: in the past year,  I've had an unresponsive shutter problem with a new M-P240 which manifested itself while I was traveling in Africa and took Leica about 10 weeks to fix; then I had a failed AF on my Summarit 70CS and now this. Meanwhile, my Nikon 810 has never missed a beat. 

 

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Leica has serious problems with its quality control. I can't understand how they manage do mistakes like these with the price we pay of cameras and lenses.

 

They are shooting to own leg with this action.

 

Maybe they should move to sell only +50 000€ collectibles which aren't attended to shoot any photos.

 

 

Ps. Friend of mine has D800 which rejects memory card quite often. Nikon hadn't got that fixed though it was sent to repair.

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Wait just a second now with all due respect to Leica any camera new out of the box that shows line like your picture indicates and I believe you you just shot a bright frame processed in LR can't be tolerated....period!

 

that camera should have been put through some very rigourous testing before signed off by quality control. Let's just hope the camera was damaged in shipping, ala loose or cracked something. I'm confident they will ship your dealer a new camera in less than a week if not look elsewhere. Your dealer should be screaming and kicking like hell to get you satisfied.

 

please post a reply on Tuesday when you get the new body

 

thanks

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Got mine today and took some "test" photos before charging the battery. I opened photos with LR CC and noticed there is five blue vertical lines in every photo. Also some bright lines and white pixels occurred.

 

Screen capture from LR, 100% crop from lower left corner.

 

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why didn't you test the camera before leaving the shop anyway and why didn't the dealer insist on a walk thru just to check you out?

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I talked to a Leica tech from Germany at an event in Zurich yesterday. He told me that with a CCD a faulty pixel would lead to a whole line of dead pixels, whereas with a CMOS you would only have single spots that show dead.

 

He also told me that yes, their sensor provider/manufacturer CMOSIS from Belgium have problems producing enough sensors to keep up the production of the 007. So apparently there really is something up.

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Update!

 

I got call from my local dealer, my S is ready to pick up. I picked it up and examined it. It's same body, so i asked what is done with it less than a week. Answer was that it needed sort of "sensor reset" something which is normally done in factory but seemingly forgotten least some of the bodies. They did that at the retailer with Leicas technician on the phone.

 

So, i did test shoot and stripes was gone! So was white pixels and other staff.

 

There's light at the end of the tunnel!

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I got call from my local dealer, my S is ready to pick up. I picked it up and examined it. It's same body, so i asked what is done with it less than a week. Answer was that it needed sort of "sensor reset" something which is normally done in factory but seemingly forgotten least some of the bodies. They did that at the retailer with Leicas technician on the phone.

 

I am afraid that what they call "sensor reset" is probably sensor remapping.

Sensor remapping just tells the camera raw processor to "hide" the dead pixels by means of nearest neighbor interpolation.

 

That could cause artifacts in your image, as described here:

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2013/20130408_2-LeicaM240-bad-pixel-column.html

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If they did that, they did it well... I took photo from my roof panel (lots of stripes) at 45° angle and looked it side by side with one where blue lines occurred. At 1:1 scale i didn't find anything suspicious.

 

Anyway, retailer told me to take the camera, use it as much as you want and come back later with camera or money.

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When i tried take that photo of my roof, camera on tripod aimed up, me in very uncomfortable position trying to see through viewfinder, i suddenly realized that i have live view! Just sit down and look the back screen and take the shoot. I felt like genius for a moment ;-)

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