Clactonian Posted September 1, 2015 Share #21 Posted September 1, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Buying a tripod (or even a monopod) is much cheaper and enables far higher image quality than even the very best Leica lens can achieve hand held in low light. Steve I have to agree. I couldn't believe the difference in image quality after I started using a tripod with my higher resolution sensors which had disappointed up to that point. Not so easy to use with interior shots in public places I'll grant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ShivaYash Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #22 Posted September 1, 2015 Been offered an ex-demo Summilux 35 ASPH, never used before. Is 6-bit coded and comes with warranty, unregistered, hood and leather pouch and all the caps. 2400€ I crave bokeh so this may not be the right one for me but it does seem like a good deal. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 1, 2015 Share #23 Posted September 1, 2015 Is it a FLE (current) or pre-FLE Summilux 35 asph? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #24 Posted September 1, 2015 Is it a FLE (current) or pre-FLE Summilux 35 asph? Pre. Serial is 4080197. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #25 Posted September 1, 2015 Selling is applying pressure saying the FLE is prone to flare and the Bokeh is terrible etc. Not sure I believe him ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 1, 2015 Share #26 Posted September 1, 2015 Both FLE and pre-FLE 35/1.4 asph are very close as far as IQ is concerned and both are less flare prone than your 35/2 v4 but with generally sharper bokeh. Only problem of the 35/1.4 asph pre-FLE is focus shift which can vary, some silver and titanium copies being less prone to it for mysterious reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted September 1, 2015 Share #27 Posted September 1, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Been offered an ex-demo Summilux 35 ASPH, never used before. Is 6-bit coded and comes with warranty, unregistered, hood and leather pouch and all the caps. 2400€ I crave bokeh so this may not be the right one for me but it does seem like a good deal. Thoughts? Sounds a good price. Not far off a used one in good condition and with a full warranty its well worth considering I'd say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #28 Posted September 1, 2015 Sounds a good price. Not far off a used one in good condition and with a full warranty its well worth considering I'd say. What's the size difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 1, 2015 Share #29 Posted September 1, 2015 What's the size difference? 35/1.4 asph pre-FLE: 46 x 53mm, 320g (black anodized) w/o hood 35/1.4 asph FLE: 46 x 56mm, 330g (black anodized) w/o hood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 1, 2015 Share #30 Posted September 1, 2015 I have had most of Leica 35's and used a few more that I didn't own. It's a personal thing, some swear by the FLE, I don't personally like the rendering on some images. I prefer other 35's I also didn't really bond with the 35 ASPH, couldn't fault it but didn't love it. I think you need to get your MK IV serviced and coded by Leica and chase a different focal length to ad to your collection. I have kept my 35 Summilux Aspherical, 35 f2.8 summaron and the mkIV Summicron. The other 35 I thought was superb was the pre FLE, never found focus shift a problem (should be called aperture shift imo) and only sold it because I tried the aspherical and couldn't justify keeping four 35's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai_Print Posted September 1, 2015 Share #31 Posted September 1, 2015 Check out this person's work with the 35 FLE, they are actual photographs by an actual photographer rather than banal happy snaps or lens tests. Once I stopped listening to the pundit's calling a foul of the FLE rendering with no visual basis and started making real, going to get published income earning photographs with it, I found it to be my all time favorite 35mm lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 1, 2015 Share #32 Posted September 1, 2015 Check out this person's work with the 35 FLE... His work would be good regardless of lens chosen. I didn't check EXIF data on pics, but he doesn't mention the FLE specifically in his article; rather he says his first Leica lens 6 years ago was the 35 Summilux (the FLE version was introduced 2010, 5 years ago), and that he uses "a few lenses" (on 2 cameras). Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #33 Posted September 1, 2015 Check out this person's work with the 35 FLE, they are actual photographs by an actual photographer rather than banal happy snaps or lens tests. Once I stopped listening to the pundit's calling a foul of the FLE rendering with no visual basis and started making real, going to get published income earning photographs with it, I found it to be my all time favorite 35mm lens. I think you are right perhaps but I don't want to be without a 35 for 12 weeks plus I am travelling to Australia for five months next month and want to take 28, 35 and 50. I'll be shooting at my brother in laws wedding plus family generally, my wife is Australian. Then we plan to visit India en route home. I have a FLE in waiting perhaps, if we can come to a deal for 2800 euro or thereabouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai_Print Posted September 1, 2015 Share #34 Posted September 1, 2015 His work would be good regardless of lens chosen. I didn't check EXIF data on pics, but he doesn't mention the FLE specifically in his article; rather he says his first Leica lens 6 years ago was the 35 Summilux (the FLE version was introduced 2010, 5 years ago), and that he uses "a few lenses" (on 2 cameras). Jeff He says all the images were made 2014/15. I also dug around elsewhere on his site where he is seen in a video using a well worn 35 FLE on his M. You can also tell which images were made with a 35 vs another lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 1, 2015 Share #35 Posted September 1, 2015 Why don't you just ask him? http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249581-leica-m-a-100-weddings-later/ Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai_Print Posted September 1, 2015 Share #36 Posted September 1, 2015 I think you are right perhaps but I don't want to be without a 35 for 12 weeks plus I am travelling to Australia for five months next month and want to take 28, 35 and 50. I'll be shooting at my brother in laws wedding plus family generally, my wife is Australian. Then we plan to visit India en route home. I have a FLE in waiting perhaps, if we can come to a deal for 2800 euro or thereabouts. You will be fine, Alex Webb did most of his work in Istanbul and Cuba with your 35mm F2 lens using 200 speed film, you have one if not two stops advantage in terms of dealing with light. Besides, photography is 90% talent and vision and 10% gear I estimate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai_Print Posted September 1, 2015 Share #37 Posted September 1, 2015 Why don't you just ask him? http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249581-leica-m-a-100-weddings-later/ Jeff No need, I can tell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted September 1, 2015 Share #38 Posted September 1, 2015 In 2015, you don't buy a fast lens for the speed. You buy it for the rendering. If you don't mind the size, take also a look at the Zeiss ZM 35/1.4, or the cheaper Voigtlander 35/1.2 (but quite an amazing lens). That's not correct, a fast lens is still useful in terms of keeping lower ISOs in low light shooting. Which offers less noise and better dynamic range. As an example. With the excellent edge to edge wide open performance of the 35mm FLE, one can get away with shooting twilight landscape shots without a tripod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipThomas Posted September 1, 2015 Share #39 Posted September 1, 2015 He says all the images were made 2014/15. I also dug around elsewhere on his site where he is seen in a video using a well worn 35 FLE on his M. You can also tell which images were made with a 35 vs another lens. I use the Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 if this help answer your questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ai_Print Posted September 1, 2015 Share #40 Posted September 1, 2015 I use the Leica Summilux-M 35mm f/1.4 ASPH if this help answer your questions. There are two versions of this lens, the one you are using in the video is unofficially referred to as the "FLE" as in Floating Lens Element, the latest version that overcomes focus shift on digital M cameras and has improved corner and close focus and a metal lens hood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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