hawk.kat Posted July 25, 2015 Share #1 Posted July 25, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm finding that images captured on the Q tend to be under exposed relative to the previews on the LCD and EVF. Is this the common experience? Another one for the list of firmware cures? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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barjohn Posted July 25, 2015 Share #2 Posted July 25, 2015 Read Thorsten's blog. Set the LCD to lowest level to more accurately see LCD image matching output. The LCD and EVF are brighter than the images produced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 25, 2015 Share #3 Posted July 25, 2015 If reviewing exposure is your intent, that's what the histogram is for. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk.kat Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted July 25, 2015 Yes, the histogram is the tool but shouldn't the displays (upon focusing and capturing exposure) ideally provide the preview? Now, I'm obviously don't know if that's technically possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 25, 2015 Share #5 Posted July 25, 2015 No, an EVF/photographer combination cannot do that . To start with, the perception of the human eye/brain is too subjective and adaptive. For that reason we need exposure meters in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted July 25, 2015 Share #6 Posted July 25, 2015 It's a pro and a con to electronic view finding. On the one hand, it may not represent what you see with the naked eye but on the other hand it lets you see and shoot in conditions where you would see very little with the naked eye. I guess, optimally, there would be a function button that would let you toggle between seeing it as it is and will be exposed and enhanced viewing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted July 25, 2015 Share #7 Posted July 25, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) If reviewing exposure is your intent, that's what the histogram is for. Jeff The histogram doesn't change with the exposure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 25, 2015 Share #8 Posted July 25, 2015 The histogram doesn't change with the exposure. Ha. So instead of the phrase 'expose to the right', for instance, exactly what verb would you substitute? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 25, 2015 Share #9 Posted July 25, 2015 The histogram doesn't change with the exposure. How am I to understand that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 25, 2015 Share #10 Posted July 25, 2015 How am I to understand that? With great difficulty. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted July 25, 2015 Share #11 Posted July 25, 2015 Sorry, I meant to say follow the exposure- When I adjust the aperture or shutter speed the histogram does not show the results of your exposure settings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 25, 2015 Share #12 Posted July 25, 2015 Not if the camera is set to auto-whatever, as the exposure will not change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted July 26, 2015 Share #13 Posted July 26, 2015 Not if the camera is set to auto-whatever, as the exposure will not change. Are you suggesting your histogram changes as you adjust the exposure in full manual? Because my camera does not, the histogram is not live to the manual exposure adjustments. For example if I set up the shutter speed and aperture so that the image is completely overexposed, the histogram still displays a perfect histogram. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchout72 Posted July 26, 2015 Share #14 Posted July 26, 2015 Are you suggesting your histogram changes as you adjust the exposure in full manual? Because my camera does not, the histogram is not live to the manual exposure adjustments. For example if I set up the shutter speed and aperture so that the image is completely overexposed, the histogram still displays a perfect histogram. Thanks for the explanation. I do not have the Q but the histogram does change with varying exposure on my digilux2 (it is live). I am looking for something to replace the digilux and the Q might be the one other than the fixed 28 which will be a consideration. /W72 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 26, 2015 Share #15 Posted July 26, 2015 Are you suggesting your histogram changes as you adjust the exposure in full manual? Because my camera does not, the histogram is not live to the manual exposure adjustments. For example if I set up the shutter speed and aperture so that the image is completely overexposed, the histogram still displays a perfect histogram. That is very weird. The histogram for an overexposed image should be bunched up all to the right. It suggests that the histogram you are seeing is not related to the image you are recording. I fail to see the function of a histogram that does not show the exposure of the image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snz Posted July 26, 2015 Share #16 Posted July 26, 2015 The histogram for an overexposed image should be bunched up all to the right. It suggests that the histogram you are seeing is not related to the image you are recording. This is exactly what is happening. The histogram in live view always shows you a perfect image (or what the camera thinks a perfect image is) even when you are in full manual mode and over- and underexposing and know the histogram should bounce to the left or right. Once you half press the shutter though you'll get to see what you are actually capturing. This is something Leica should address in a firmware update. I just did the same test with my Sony A7s and it always shows the correct image according to your settings. As it should be. Edit: 1st post yay! Happy owner of the Q too. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted July 26, 2015 Share #17 Posted July 26, 2015 Yes, the preview is (much) brighter than the final image. The LCD screen can be adjusted, but the EVF cannot. I only use the EVF, so I don't have the advantage of seeing the image as it will be. I hope Leica can make it possible in a firmware update. But else you just get used to the difference though it is hard to over-expose and believe it will be all right when you look in the EVF. http://www.overgaard.dk/Leica-Q-Hemingway-digital-rangefinder-.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk.kat Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share #18 Posted July 26, 2015 Thanks to Overgaard and others who have taken the time and patience to discuss and explain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted July 26, 2015 Share #19 Posted July 26, 2015 Indeed the histogram seems to be all but useless the way it is at the moment. I find that I expose slightly to that the right as highlight recovery seems to be good and the clipping setting are conservative by (I would say) a couple of stops whereas recovering from shadow area can be more problematic with banding in the shadows. On the whole I don't find the LCD/EVF brightness to be a problem you just get used to it and I find that I actually have to set the LCD to medium high brightness even to be able to see it in bright sunshine. Would be nice to have a setting for bright sunshine for the LCD as I do with the Sony A7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 26, 2015 Share #20 Posted July 26, 2015 I'm really surprised by this. In most EVFs that I've seen, when you half-depress the shutter button, you see the exposure as it is affected by the settings, as you do on the M with LV or the EVF. Change the aperture for example, and you see the effect. Have they really gone backwards with the Q? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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