dkCambridgeshire Posted July 22, 2015 Share #1 Posted July 22, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just noticed one UK Leica Ppremier Dealer is offering the M240 for £4150 inclusive of £500 cashback 'at the till' . How long before other UK dealers offer same? Similar cashback deal applies to the ME. Could this be indicative of something 'blowing in the wind?" dunk EDIT … Two other UK Leica Premier Dealers also offering the same deal via discount code vouchers. Promotion ends August 14 and August 16. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 Hi dkCambridgeshire, Take a look here UK Premier Dealer offering new M240 for £4150. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
keithlaban.co.uk Posted July 22, 2015 Share #2 Posted July 22, 2015 At the beginning of the year one of the premier dealers was selling the M240 for £3,750 including cashback. Prices are volatile due to the strength of the GBP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted July 22, 2015 Share #3 Posted July 22, 2015 Could this be indicative of something 'blowing in the wind?" We had very similar discounts earlier in the year, or was it late last year? But I got an email from Harrison Cameras a couple of days ago and agree this could be last push for selling off stock before an announcement. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sootyvrs Posted July 22, 2015 Share #4 Posted July 22, 2015 I think all the delaers are offering this £500 incentive. I also noticed Digitalrev in Hong Kong are selliing new M 240 for £3500 & M-P for £3999 with 2 year International Leica Warranty.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted July 22, 2015 Share #5 Posted July 22, 2015 Assuming no VAT or sales tax in Hong Kong. What's the cost of a return flight plus air taxes? Then what is the duty and VAT on arrival? Any benefit? Smuggling might be an option but that is illegal. Is the risk worth it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sootyvrs Posted July 23, 2015 Share #6 Posted July 23, 2015 I enquired and that is the UK price delivered with all taxes paid. If you get charged for additional taxes they will refund it according to their website Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
}{B Posted July 23, 2015 Share #7 Posted July 23, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I see that Harrisons are also offering the M-E for £2899 when the £500 discount is taken into account. As Shakespeare may have said ' To buy the 240 or the M-E that is the question'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted July 23, 2015 Share #8 Posted July 23, 2015 I enquired and that is the UK price delivered with all taxes paid. If you get charged for additional taxes they will refund it according to their website Sounds like they will send it with a customs misdeclaration and pay you if they (and you) get caught. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted July 23, 2015 Share #9 Posted July 23, 2015 Then what is the duty and VAT on arrival? Any benefit? Smuggling might be an option but that is illegal. Is the risk worth it? You will need to pay VAT and duty if the item is new, but if you use it and don't come in looking like you are going to resell it (pristine box, etc) you may get away with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted July 23, 2015 I see that Harrisons are also offering the M-E for £2899 when the £500 discount is taken into account. As Shakespeare may have said ' To buy the 240 or the M-E that is the question'. More a question of potential sensor corrosion … or no sensor corrosion … and what might Leica have up their sleeve to replace the M240? Given the new Q's sensor, might there be an M development … e.g. an MQ? dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sootyvrs Posted July 23, 2015 Share #11 Posted July 23, 2015 There are still a few M9 (M-E) die-hards that say the CCD images are much better than the 240's CMOS images at low ISO.. Another thing to consider as mentioned is that the M-E suffers from the sensor corrosion issue although Leica seem to have a new sensor in the pipeline to fix that problem once and for all (hopefully) and if you do suffer it's fate, you probably be offered a newer model at a considerable saving (unless they stop this offer due to fixed sensor replacement) and then you could sell the M-E and not lose out financially if you choose the M-E route. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted July 23, 2015 There are still a few M9 (M-E) die-hards that say the CCD images are much better than the 240's CMOS images at low ISO.. Another thing to consider as mentioned is that the M-E suffers from the sensor corrosion issue although Leica seem to have a new sensor in the pipeline to fix that problem once and for all (hopefully) and if you do suffer it's fate, you probably be offered a newer model at a considerable saving (unless they stop this offer due to fixed sensor replacement) and then you could sell the M-E and not lose out financially if you choose the M-E route. Don't think so … only original replacements. A new sensor or alternative filter on same sensor would probably require a firmware upgrade. dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sootyvrs Posted July 23, 2015 Share #13 Posted July 23, 2015 Don't think so … only original replacements. A new sensor or alternative filter on same sensor would probably require a firmware upgrade. dunk dunk Info from here - http://en.leica-camera.com/World-of-Leica/Leica-News/About-Leica-News/Global/2015/Latest-information-CCD-sensors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted July 23, 2015 Don't think so … only original replacements. A new sensor or alternative filter on same sensor would probably require a firmware upgrade. dunk Apologies … was unaware of latest announcement dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted July 23, 2015 Share #15 Posted July 23, 2015 Total bugger, as tomorrow I was due to pick up my MM246, and was planning to put my M240P in as a commission sale to fund it in part. Had made no firm arrangement with my dealer, but the last used M240P he had in stock went for £4299. Not sure, but I somehow don't think he'd be asking that price for mine, now that they're down to £4749 new with the £500 cash back offer, There's going to be a nice big dent in what I'd anticipated getting back for the M240P. Somehow, it never works out for me! And I never learn....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted July 24, 2015 Share #16 Posted July 24, 2015 The reason must be that the British Pound is 'very' strong compared to Euro (NOK, SEK, DKK etc). A bit puzzling since the British economy is all in shambles. Must be that the Bank of England tries to hold a fixed convertion to the US dollar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted July 24, 2015 Share #17 Posted July 24, 2015 US Leica users are complaining about much of the same. Which must be due to the rapid increase of the US dollar to the Euro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted July 24, 2015 Share #18 Posted July 24, 2015 I really can't understand how Leica can continue to justify the discrepancy in their pricing of the M246 as between the eurozone and the UK. Currently a UK resident can save around £650 simply by importing the camera from Germany with no taxes or other import duties to worry about. I do sometimes wonder whether, given the decades of meteoric rise in the value of the DM, devaluation has become an alien concept to German business and as a result they just can't adapt to it. Of course, it may be just be a matter of greed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 24, 2015 Share #19 Posted July 24, 2015 Good point Jennifer. I expect these special prices are for a mixture of reasons, a new model possibly but certainly a consequence of the changing exchange rate. The new Q seems more reasonable being a new introduction but M prices set 2 or 3 years ago are clearly out of step with current exchange rate reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted July 24, 2015 Share #20 Posted July 24, 2015 The £500 is a Leica offer through all dealers. In terms of playing the Euro vs GBP, I always look for more pricey items on amazon.co.uk, amazon.de and amazon.fr (beware wifi standard differences) before I buy. Amazon charges a small fee for intra-EU delivery and the return conditions are the same. No company can change its prices in all jurisdictions every day, so there will always be shifts in relative values. Also worth noting the slight discount that German VAT is 19% and UK VAT is 20% rgds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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