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Many M8 users have had screens die out on them.

I have picked up a used M8 without a working display with the intention of using it as an Film shooting Digital storage Camera.

 

Would appreciate any tips fellow shooters have to give in this regard.

 

This thread would also serve as a one stop for anyone in a similar situation.

 

One important contribution owners with working LCDs could give is key combinations to access functions.

 

 

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Hi David !!

 

Thanks so much for the link .. I’ve read a lot on the forums and that post escaped my eye.

Very informative and interesting, Lenshacker really laid the Menu button sequence out well.

I just wish I knew the Firmware version on my camera so I could just follow the button dance.

 

I need to turn off Auto ISO and figure a way to change ISO wile shooting ( Not as important as Disabling Auto ISO )

A solution for ISO change while shooting, paste a print of the screen capture of ISO settings on the LCD with the button sequence !!.

 

I changed the ISO and image format using Leica Capture on a friends Windows machine. ( If anyone needs it Please message me )

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The Button Dance

 

If we could document the Button Dance for important settings this would make a good reference and finally a well formatted PDF that we could use on the Phone.

 

Below contributed by Lenshacker ( Thank You so much). Please, any M8 users add to it when you have the time.(You never know when you may need it !!)

 

When you turn the camera on and press "MENU", you get the Lens Detection selection. Note: Firmware 2.024, SN 319xxxx

 

(back to Lens Detection off) 24th Push

 

- Save User Profile         23

 

- Self Timer                    22

 

- Auto-ISO                      21

 

- Sharpening                  20

 

- Color Saturation          19

 

- Contrast                      18

 

- Monitor Brightness      17

 

- Histogram                    16

 

- Picture Numbering      15

 

- Auto Review                14

 

- Auto Power Off            13

 

- Flash Sync                  12

 

- Auto Slow Sync           11

 

- Color Management     10

 

- Reset                            9

 

- Sensor Cleaning           8

 

- Date                              7

Pressing the "UP" arrow 7 times gets you to DATE.

Press SET gets you to SETTING

Press SET gets you to YEAR

Press UP for HIGHER DOWN for LOWER

Press RIGHT for Month, and Right again for Date

 

- Time                              6

Pressing the "UP" arrow 6 times gets you to TIME.

Press SET gets you to "setting"

Press SET gets you to Hour.

Press UP to raise, DOWN to lower.

Press RIGHT for MINUTES

 

- Acoustic Signal              5

 

- Language                      4

 

- Format SD Card            3

Pressing the "UP" arrow 3 times gets you to FORMAT.

Press "SET"

Press "RIGHT"

Press "SET"

 

- Firmware                       2

 

- Advance                        1

 

Lens Detection         < comes up here when turned on. Press Up Button to go up in this sequence, repeats itself on 24th press.

 

 

Could someone please re check the above.

Thanks

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Yes Lloyd, these are correct according to my button pressing , and same firmware as yours (2.024).  Previous firmware did not have "Advance" so button presses were one press less with the older firmware ie starts at "Firmware" at one button push up.

cheers  Dave S

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Dave

 

Thanks for verifying the dance.

These are from Lenshacker. My display is dead :-(. Added his firmware and partial SN so people can have some sort of reference.

 

Im still documenting the sequences, I haven’t tried the button dance yet. Need to confirm my Firmware version somehow cause the last thing I want is to change some values, not get the intended setting and go deeper down the rabbit hole.

 

If you have some time can you please list the steps to turn off Auto ISO, that’s one setting I need to change.

 

Cheers

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HI Lloyd

I'm having trouble with my internet connection so I may not be as responsive as you might hope.  Seems the street's phone lines are bad due to very rough weather here and may take a few days to fix.

But...

1. turn on

2. Set, brings you to ISO setting screen

3. choices are Auto ISO, 160, 320, 640, 1250, 2500 from top to bottom of screen.

4.  buttons down to choose and press set, touch shutter button to exit the set screen.

 If you have Auto already set, then one button down push should get you to 160 ISO, two downs will get you to 320, etc.

 

You can also tell from the  viewfinder info, after setting camera shutter speed to "A",  which ISO you are in, by the shutter speeds (keep aperture constant) shown in the viewfinder. Obviously a slower shutter will mean a slower ISO setting.  And vice versa.

 

Let us know how you get on.

I'm guessing you have the camera already set to DNG+JPG?

 

cheers Dave S :)

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Hi Dave

 

No worries take your time.

Hope your lines get fixed soon. Rough weather and no access is not a good combination.

Thanks for reaching out in-spite of it.

Yes I have set the file format to only DNG via the software. The newer Leica Capture version 1.0.5 lets you set ISO as well but i don’t have access to it.

The Combination did not work I am still getting funky ISOs. ( Maybe step 4 choose and press Pad Center Button ? )

 

Cheers.

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Lloyd

Should have written ...

1. turn on

2. Set, Set again, brings you to ISO setting screen

3. choices are Auto ISO, 160, 320, 640, 1250, 2500 from top to bottom of screen.

4.  buttons down to choose and press set, touch shutter button to exit the set screen.

 If you have Auto already set, then one button down push should get you to 160 ISO, two downs will get you to 320, etc.

 

Need to press "Set" twice to enter the ISO menu...sorry to mislead.

cheers  Dave S :)

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Hey Dave

 

Woah .. what setting did I change with the earlier instruction :huh:

 I think we need to get screen-shots with the button combos if possible

 

Was hoping other members would add to the Button Dance Wiki! Or at least verify .. Anyways

 

Im a bit confused now

 

Power ON, SET ( brings up )

 

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Hi Lloyd

I've tried both my M8's and after turning ON, and two pushes of SET button...I get a screen with choices of..  

"3. choices are Auto ISO, 160, 320, 640, 1250, 2500 from top to bottom of screen." as per post#9

 

Perhaps someone else will confirm these settings??

 

I have tried the erroneous button dance in my post#7...this should change nothing in the Set Menu, as long as you exit by pressing the shutter button to exit the Set menu, as per post.

Post#9 is the correct post.  I get consistent results with both my M8's doing this method.

 

Remember you must start the camera, from Off, to follow the sequence.  Starting from Off the menus reset to their first screens.  If you don't start from Off, the menus will take you to the last setting you configured.

 

There is no response with centre pad button on the Leica M8; it is strictly a rocker switch.

By the way, Firmware version can always be found in Exif data in Lightroom. ISO settings are also shown in the Exif data.

 

cheers Dave S :)

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My M8 screen is 100% functional, no issues here, but just in case, I already set the camera to my prefer parameters and leave the ISO at 160. I just use it the whole week on vacations and never check the screen once. (If the light goes too dark, I switch to my Sony A7).

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Hey Dave

 

Thanks for the updated sequence and for testing the old sequence.

 

Im a happy shooter at ISO 160 !!

 

Really appreciate it, now I can get cracking to understanding the lens and the beast. Was really getting frustrated with the ISO tripping out.

With some practice changing the ISO should be quite simple to do as well.

 

Cheers :)

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you don´t need to change the iso at the cam.

you get better results if you allways shoot with iso 160

and boost the sensitivity when you develop the raws files.

 

btw my screen works perfect ;-)

 

lambda.

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  • 4 weeks later...

you don´t need to change the iso at the cam.

you get better results if you allways shoot with iso 160

and boost the sensitivity when you develop the raws files.

 

btw my screen works perfect ;-)

 

lambda.

 

Yep, that is the way to go. You can use Leica Capture to set the camera (iso 160, store DNG od DNG+JPG), and you are good to go. However, using lens conding is not an option I am afraid.

 

Speaking of digital pushing, you may want to check DeNoise plugin from Topaz Labs (http://www.topazlabs.com/denoise). It is truly awesome, does much better job than LR itself.

 

And my screen is also perfect, althoug I keep it off most of the time. Who would do chimping, anyway. 

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