jaapv Posted May 11, 2015 Share #41 Posted May 11, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) There is more than wild speculation... http://www.dslrmagazine.com/digital/camaras-de-telemetro-y-especiales/leica-m-cura-de-adelgazamiento.html (Some kind of signals point in that direction). Again the Leica Q. Typ 116 puts it in the X series. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjh Posted May 11, 2015 Share #42 Posted May 11, 2015 Not only do they claim to have predicted correctly, they claim exclusive scoops, as quoted in the article discussed here... "But regular readers of La Vida Leica know that we've had many exclusive scoops in the past... The (new) Leica M Monochrom, M-E, M-A, T and X Vario to name a few." Yeah, they predicted a new M Monochrom to be introduced at photokina 2014, as well as a new M-E. Neither of which did materialise. Not at that time anyway. One doesn’t need inside knowledge to predict a new version of some existing model and when one’s guess as to the introduction data is wildly wrong (7 months off in the case of the new MM and there is stll no indication of a new M-E being imminent), chances are that one is merely speculating. I am not a big fan of rumour sites but bona fide rumour sites are honest about what they do. They refer to specific sources, classify the trustability of those sources, point out the different info they’ve got from different sources etc.. Whereas lavidaleica claims that they ‘know’. Even when they clearly don’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted May 11, 2015 Share #43 Posted May 11, 2015 GAS. Everyone has fallen for it. It is like fastfood. You actually don't want it, but you take it anyway and you feel sorry afterwarts. Rumorsites make a living of it, so I stay clear of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 11, 2015 Share #44 Posted May 11, 2015 GAS. Everyone has fallen for it. It is like fastfood. You actually don't want it, but you take it anyway and you feel sorry afterwarts. Rumorsites make a living of it, so I stay clear of them. Reading about stuff is different than buying stuff. One can read about fast food without eating it; at least I can. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted May 11, 2015 Share #45 Posted May 11, 2015 Reading about stuff is different than buying stuff. One can read about fast food without eating it; at least I can. Jeff And do you feel just as sorry afterwarts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 11, 2015 Share #46 Posted May 11, 2015 Yeah, they predicted a new M Monochrom to be introduced at photokina 2014, as well as a new M-E. Neither of which did materialise. Not at that time anyway. One doesn’t need inside knowledge to predict a new version of some existing model and when one’s guess as to the introduction data is wildly wrong (7 months off in the case of the new MM and there is stll no indication of a new M-E being imminent), chances are that one is merely speculating. I am not a big fan of rumour sites but bona fide rumour sites are honest about what they do. They refer to specific sources, classify the trustability of those sources, point out the different info they’ve got from different sources etc.. Whereas lavidaleica claims that they ‘know’. Even when they clearly don’t. Indeed. I was quoting their claim, which was even more bold than Jono characterized, certainly not endorsing it. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 11, 2015 Share #47 Posted May 11, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Denying Lavida's status of rumor site is rather childish IMO and repeating ad nauseam that each rumor they spread "is NOT a rumor" can be painful at best but they can be pretty accurate sometimes and Lavida's owner is still a LUF member, if i'm not mistaken, so i think he deserves more respect than he's got on this thread if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 11, 2015 Share #48 Posted May 11, 2015 We don't need a lynch mob, that is true, but if there is an online presence, it is perfectly legitimate to post criticism (and counter arguments), within the limits of a decent discussion and without getting into personal attacks, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted May 11, 2015 Share #49 Posted May 11, 2015 Possibly echoing La Vida Leica. There is no indication of different sources, so I don't take it very serious. I may be wrong but I think the source is different. They refer to two different cameras: 1, a new compact camera with fixed lens and 24x36 format; 2, and a new camera with M mount and EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 11, 2015 Share #50 Posted May 11, 2015 Both are quite possible, but I doubt that such a camera would be regarded as an M successor. More likely as a new departure - and a hard road, competing with the likes of the Sony Alpha, if full frame, it would eat into the M typ 240 camera sales. I still think a next generation true M should be due by the numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted May 11, 2015 Share #51 Posted May 11, 2015 Denying Lavida's status of rumor site is rather childish IMO and repeating ad nauseam that each rumor they spread "is NOT a rumor" can be painful at best but they can be pretty accurate sometimes and Lavida's owner is still a LUF member, if i'm not mistaken, so i think he deserves more respect than he's got on this thread if you ask me. Nobody who could write an article like the one he has written about another forum member deserves ANY respect (IMHO) . Still, that's not the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted May 11, 2015 Share #52 Posted May 11, 2015 Both are quite possible, but I doubt that such a camera would be regarded as an M successor. More likely as a new departure - and a hard road, competing with the likes of the Sony Alpha, if full frame, it would eat into the M typ 240 camera sales. I still think a next generation true M should be due by the numbers. I agree. This is not a M successor, but a departure, a different camera. The next generation m rangefinder camera (the successor of the typ 240) is a different thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 11, 2015 Share #53 Posted May 11, 2015 I am coming to the conclusion (rightly or wrongly) it might just be a FF Leica with an RX-1 type of fixed lens. If it is 28mm-good choice. The big question in my mind is does it have a bulit-in EVF or clip-on. Let's just hope they don't call it a mini-M! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 11, 2015 Share #54 Posted May 11, 2015 I am coming to the conclusion (rightly or wrongly) it might just be a FF Leica with an RX-1 type of fixed lens. If it is 28mm-good choice. The big question in my mind is does it have a bulit-in EVF or clip-on. Let's just hope they don't call it a mini-M! The article calls the camera you describe the Leica Q (Typ 116)….he links to it in the first paragraph. The rest of the article claims to describe a new M evolution. Two different cameras, according to the article, some or none of which may be accurate. We'll see. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piblondin Posted May 11, 2015 Share #55 Posted May 11, 2015 Nobody who could write an article like the one he has written about another forum member deserves ANY respect (IMHO) . Still, that's not the point. I didn't realize that LUF membership granted immunity from criticism, but I'll take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 11, 2015 Share #56 Posted May 11, 2015 I didn't realize that LUF membership granted immunity from criticism, but I'll take it. ‘Criticism’ isn’t the word I would use to characterise the article in question. If criticism of fellow members wasn’t allowed, this forum would have imploded long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted May 11, 2015 Share #57 Posted May 11, 2015 ‘Criticism’ isn’t the word I would use to characterise the article in question. If criticism of fellow members wasn’t allowed, this forum would have imploded long ago. Illegitimi non carborundum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kilmister Posted May 11, 2015 Share #58 Posted May 11, 2015 Semper in excretia sumus, solem profundum variat. The problem with personal criticisms on any forum is that one has very rarely met the other person. To my mind it seems a bit odd to attack someone for their views but everyone can be different in a diverse world. I prefer to keep my powder dry until the last minute. Any opinion, however daft it might seem, can suddenly turn into fact. Surely we have all been caught out at one time or another? Another M will probably emerge soon. A variation might emerge. Do I care? Not really unless the new model is worth it. We'll only know when fiction becomes fact. Until then, dear moderators, what is the point of continuing speculation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 11, 2015 Share #59 Posted May 11, 2015 Semper in excretia sumus, solem profundum variat. Until then, dear moderators, what is the point of continuing speculation? The lifeblood of this forum.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted May 11, 2015 Share #60 Posted May 11, 2015 without a traditional optical rangefinder it is not an M ..... by definition ....... and it is hard to see how the current optical mechanism could be replaced by a more compact alternative and retain RF accuracy ...... That has already come to be with the Fuji X100T, which has an optical viewfinder and can simultaneously pop up a small electronic box with a split-image focusing aid (or 5x or 10x magnification). The only catch right now is that it is in the lower right corner. But it's not going to be impossible to move that to center frame. Only a matter of time. And you don't need to retain RF accuracy, which depends on a good-sized base length and lenses that don't have focus shift. With one of these systems, you are focusing right off the sensor using phase-detection at the shooting aperture. This is considerably better than DSLRs, which use phase detection and then stop down (causing shift). Dante Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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