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Struggling to love the M-P 240


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@CheshireCat: Yup using uncompressed now. Tried uncompressed and compressed to see if there were any tonality differences. Cant discern any so far.

Trust me, the only difference is the file size. That kind of compression does not alter the original data in any way.

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If you are happy with your results, *bless* However it seems a pity to waste the quality the camera is capable of. For the life of me  I cannot see the advantage of using JPGs from a workflow point of view, except in special cases, as DNGs are faster, easier and more versatile to process...

One reason for using JPEGs is so that one doesn't need to process them, whereas RAW files always require some form of processing. 

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SITREP:

2 key updates:

 

1. Handling: Got my Luigi deluxe case and strap today and a Billingham Hadley Pro for schlepping the camera, lenses and my Fuji X100. What a transformation! IMHO coupled with the ThumbUp grip and Luigi case the handling of the camera transformed completely. Its no longer slippery or ungainly in my hands. Yes its a tad bulkier but all in all a much better handling solution. I used to have a Domke F5XB case but it was a tad small but the Billingham is a lot nicer and is also quite useful to carry the kit efficiently

2. Menus: The advise on user profiles was spot on. I sat down and wrote my main shooting combinations between color vs. B&W, ISO, etc and saved it in the user profiles. Now in the past 24 hours I haven't touched the menus except to change the profile or manually shift the ISO. This advise was again immensely useful

 

I am still waiting on my vintage 50 Summilux (got held up in customs x-(..) anyhow hopefully it comes it by tomm. I am flying out to Seatlle on Thursday on vacation and this will be the first test of the camera in the field. Looking forward to it.

 

Thanks a ton for all the inputs. 

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My two cents on the Jpeg vs. RAW discussion..I would say to each their own. I personally prefer RAW editing as to me its the digital equivalt of a dark room and fits well in my analog mindset. However, I stick with only in LR and not Photoshop because that to me crosses over to digital editing territory..nothing against anyone who uses it.

 

There are some friends of mine who simply use any available camera..an iphone even..for their photography and straight away print the images. For them thats fulfilling and in many ways it has disciplined them to frame and shoot properly..measure two and cut once i guess. Again different strokes for different blokes

 

@dave.gt: You make a good point..and by and large for me most of the things I have had a long term relationship with have been love at first sight..but then I dont want to discount the process of falling in love and building familiarity. So I am going to give the M-P its due time to develop familiarity and muscle memory..but if I still cant gel with it then it adios. Time will tell. For now I am going with all the advice given here and am going to hang on to it

 

Best,

PK.

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Err... When shooting raw, the film mode is not relevant...

 

 

True (chalk that one up to brain-fart...)  :rolleyes:

 

Well, actually, not entirely irrelevant - it has an effect on how the image appears on the LCD in review mode, and that can be very useful. (Sometimes I use black and white so that I can concentrate on the composition in review - even though the DNG files are still in colour.)

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SITREP:

 

2. Menus: The advise on user profiles was spot on. I sat down and wrote my main shooting combinations between color vs. B&W, ISO, etc and saved it in the user profiles. Now in the past 24 hours I haven't touched the menus except to change the profile or manually shift the ISO. This advise was again immensely useful

 

I'm really glad you're getting to grips with the camera - I just love mine, and have long forgotten any irritations - I use user profiles all the time as well - very useful . . . . Might I recommend that you save them to an SD card and tuck them away somewhere? Sometimes firmware updates erase them, and you might change cameras etc.

 

All the best

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Yes profiles do help and maybe we can sample how forum members are using it. I changed it couple of times settling to the following:

 

1) Auto ISO with shutter speed 1/f with top ISO 1600, LV and Movie off, RED framelines (normally used)

 

2) Auto ISO with shutter speed 1/[4xf] and top ISO 3200, LV and Movie off, RED framelines  (whenever I am in a hurry and worried about camera shake/movement)

 

3) first profile with LV and Movie on and White framelines (This allows me know whether I am in a movie mode or not)

 

4) still deciding how to use. :)

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I've just had to look at the main menu to remind myself what I actually use - its probably only for card formatting 95% of the time. Otherwise I use the SET menu to fiddle with ISO and occasionally WB. Mind you, I went through it intensely when I got the camera, and spent much of the first 3-6 months getting it how I like it.

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You are not alone in struggling to love the M-P 240. I thought it was time to upgrade from my old M9 and as Leica UK were kind enough to lend me one I tried it for several days. But it's not for me. There were too many annoying traits and not enough significant advantages to justify the extra cost. And disappointingly, Leica Germany never did respond to my letter requesting further clarification. I guess they're just too busy and too successful for that. I'll be happy too continue with my M9 for some time yet. Maybe the next upgrade will be the one? 

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