Jeff S Posted April 21, 2015 Share #81 Posted April 21, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) ................I love my MM so much I just cant see that there could possibly be anything that can out perform this current MM....ever Even though it performs no better than your M240. And the hits just keep on comin'…. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 21, 2015 Share #82 Posted April 21, 2015 Even though it performs no better than your M240. And the hits just keep on comin'…. Jeff Mutton deaf......... Like taking candy off a bairn:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted April 21, 2015 Share #83 Posted April 21, 2015 I realize this is difficult for you, but you don’t HAVE to buy an eventual new model. You could - even if only in theory- carry on using your present camera,,, I went 18 years before upgrading my first digital monochrome camera to the M Monochrom. The old one was working perfectly, but it seemed time. Of course I took it apart a few times and had my own spare parts inventory. I suspect that the frequency of new Monochrome cameras being introduced will be lower than their color counterparts. The non-recurring engineering costs are still there, and not as many units get sold. A 5~6 year replacement cycle would be reasonable, unless the next camera is designed from the ground up as color/monochrome fraternal twins- same firmware load with enough processor space to make the switch at runtime. Then the delta NRE would be small and support cost would be lower. The only difference would be the color/monochrome version of the sensor. I do not plan on upgrading for a very long time, working with 36MByte Integer* 2 arrays is about all I want to do. Now, a 50MPixel Monochrom camera in the S lineup would make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted April 21, 2015 Share #84 Posted April 21, 2015 Alas, remember the olden days when a Leica camera name actually meant something? As a matter of fact I do not; Leica’s camera names make as much (or as little) sense now as they did in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 21, 2015 Share #85 Posted April 21, 2015 .unless the next camera is designed from the ground up as color/monochrome fraternal twins- same firmware load with enough processor space to make the switch at runtime. I hope not..................... I just bought some yellow/orange filters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted April 21, 2015 Share #86 Posted April 21, 2015 Don't worry- the color filters will still work... And by "Fraternal Twins": everything in the camera would be the same EXCEPT the sensor; a color camera would still have the color version of the sensor; the Monochrome would have one that is dedicated monochrome. This is how Kodak did there camera series, everything was identical except the sensor itself- including firmware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 21, 2015 Share #87 Posted April 21, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Don't worry- the color filters will still work... . I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted April 22, 2015 Share #88 Posted April 22, 2015 I'm still exploring the potential of the M8. It gives the most interesting color-infrared images of any digital camera that I've owned- including the dedicated IR cameras. New rumor. Leica will be the first company in 20 years to introduce a new Color Infrared camera based on the color dye found in Infrared Ektachrome. Have your color filters ready, yellow and orange are good ones to start with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted April 22, 2015 Share #89 Posted April 22, 2015 On the same day that the Korean Monochrom registration was noticed, as a subscriber to Sean Reid's site, I got an email announcing a review of the CV 35 f/1.2 lens and he made, for the second time, a reference to a "surprise review." On April 10, he wrote in an email, "Coming up next are three separate full tests of rangefinder lenses on the Leica M-240. There is also another large review coming in the next few weeks and it should be very interesting." Has anyone seen Jono lately? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 22, 2015 Share #90 Posted April 22, 2015 One cannot very well argue against those registrations in Korea; if a camera model gets registered there it is probably for real. leicarumors.com once thought the M Monochrom (Typ 230) was a completely new model when in fact it was a mere variation on the existing one. So the question is what the M Monochrom (Typ 246) will turn out to be. Time will tell. Time will tell indeed. As I said before, Leica cannot be keen to keep on producing CCD cameras, so it would be no surprise if they speeded things up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted April 22, 2015 Share #91 Posted April 22, 2015 Have your color filters ready, yellow and orange are good ones to start with. I've got some Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted April 22, 2015 Share #92 Posted April 22, 2015 Like taking candy off a bairn:) What the salesman was overheard saying after taking cash from the newbie for an MM… Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted April 22, 2015 Share #93 Posted April 22, 2015 As a matter of fact I do not; Leica’s camera names make as much (or as little) sense now as they did in the past. Always the contrarian, but you showed yourself how the new Typ designation does not necessarily indicate a new model. Conversely, one could speak clearly of a later or previous M model as M6, M7, M8 etc., even if the name said nothing of the new model's features. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 22, 2015 Share #94 Posted April 22, 2015 A Rose by any other name... what does it matter?.... Just an M on the front beats something like M10 or M11 mucking up the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted April 22, 2015 Share #95 Posted April 22, 2015 How about just the number? 240 in Script font.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted April 22, 2015 Share #96 Posted April 22, 2015 Always the contrarian, but you showed yourself how the new Typ designation does not necessarily indicate a new model. Conversely, one could speak clearly of a later or previous M model as M6, M7, M8 etc., even if the name said nothing of the new model's features. To take this one step further: M, M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M6 ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted April 22, 2015 Share #97 Posted April 22, 2015 And in order of introduction it would be the M3, MP, M2, M1, M4, M5, CL, M4, M4-2, M6, M7, MP, M8, M8.2, M9, M9P, M-M, M-E, M240,... I left a lot out, and don't have Lager in front of me and it will be too late to edit this when I get home- so mistakes and omissions remain, but enough for the general idea. The "M3, M2, M1" naming was based on the old III, II, I convention where the III had RF and Slow speeds, II did not have slow speeds, and I did not have RF and Slow Speeds. The M4 production was restarted after the M5 was introduced and a rebellion occurred. I still think the M5 has all the good looks of a Canon 7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 22, 2015 Share #98 Posted April 22, 2015 How about just the number? 240 in Script font.. I would prefer nothing like the M-P and Monochrom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted April 22, 2015 Share #99 Posted April 22, 2015 Always the contrarian, but you showed yourself how the new Typ designation does not necessarily indicate a new model. Conversely, one could speak clearly of a later or previous M model as M6, M7, M8 etc., even if the name said nothing of the new model's features. Yeah, with the first M being introduced as the M3, followed by the M2 and M1, then the M4, the M5, back to the M4 again, followed by the M6 and M7 … And surely there was a logical explanation of how the MD, CL, and MP did fit in there. Always the contrarian, but you showed yourself how the new Typ designation does not necessarily indicate a new model. With a little thinking, leicarumors.com could have guessed that a type number of 230, right between the M-E (Typ 220) and the M (Typ 240), made it unlikely that it was a completely new model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted April 22, 2015 Share #100 Posted April 22, 2015 You're sounding a bit like Bill Clinton here. I would say more like Donald Rumsfeld. "There are known knowns and unknown knowns[...]" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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