Guest Metroman Posted May 22, 2007 Share #61 Posted May 22, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) .......it's even still possible to buy typewriter ribbons and carbon paper!! "Take a letter Miss Jones" This gave me a laugh - insert tongue firmly in cheek: The Online Photographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 Hi Guest Metroman, Take a look here The end of film?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
StS Posted May 22, 2007 Share #62 Posted May 22, 2007 This is a bit off-topic - one can even buy one of these: Manufactum Deutschland: Suchergebnis Produktdetail - Fernsprechapparat W 48 Schwarz They were the standard phones over here from 1948 to 1962. I almost bought one however tried one in the shop and recognized dials are rather annoying. Well, some people would see a 'M' in the same light but what do they know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haris Posted May 22, 2007 Share #63 Posted May 22, 2007 See this please: KODAK: Kodak 16mm Film Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haris Posted May 22, 2007 Share #64 Posted May 22, 2007 .......it's even still possible to buy typewriter ribbons and carbon paper!! And typewritte machine I just saw few days ago in one bookshop in my town, new, Olympia, costs about 55EUROS... Totally mechanical type. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxspbr Posted May 23, 2007 Share #65 Posted May 23, 2007 Typewriters? I use them everyday. All texts that really are important for me I use typewriters, and have four (Remingtons and one Royal), all mechanic. Typewriter is a very personal way of writing. I love to write letters, and all with typewriters - my only problem is that the answers always come by e-mail... And I think that, like photography, when writing the instrument can influence the way you do that (maybe is the reason that a lot of writers still uses typewriters or write by hand). Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 23, 2007 Share #66 Posted May 23, 2007 Indeed, I read an interview with an author who mentioned that the materials she used to write with affected the style of her writing. For full novels she would use a fountain pen and high quality paper. For the short story she was writing at the time it was an cheap notepad and biro! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tummydoc Posted May 23, 2007 Share #67 Posted May 23, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Typewriter ribbons were never produced and sold in the numbers like film so there was no need for tremendous downsizing or shifting of the infrastructure to adapt to the severe drop in demand. Ribbons are much simpler and less expensive to produce than film. And they can last almost indefinitely in their sealed cellophane packages without any need for refrigeration. Finally and most importantly, typewriter ribbons produce their results directly on paper, they do not require the existence of an infrastructure for processing. Nice try though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxspbr Posted May 23, 2007 Share #68 Posted May 23, 2007 Hello. Hum! Last american made mechanical typewriter was the Smith-Corona, in 1982. And Corona stopped production of typewriters (then electric and electronic) in 1990s. Here in Brazil, that I know, there isn't anymore production of typewriters (the best brtazilian made were Remington and Olivetti). But there is a demand - here in Sao Paulo, downtown, there is a street just with typewriters' goods. Ribbons, parts, rubber (the part that make the paper still in place, I don't have a dictionary right now), technicians. And, of course, second hand typewriters. About ribbons, certainly the cost of manufacturing is low. But the price need to be low, too! So, otherwise than film, is necessary to exist a HUGE demand. Here in Brazil a new ribbon (medium quality) costs around US$0,50. How much is cost? If 50% only, the producer will gain 25cents per ribbon. He will need do sell a lot, of course. And one high grade ribbon costs around US$4,00. 8x more - but the price isn't prohibitive, so it is another product claiming for the same demand with good results. Still is possible to buy the ribbon for the IBM 72. A great electric typewriter, long discontinued. Here in my office I have one. And I still can buy the ribbon - that is a special model, different than those for the mechanical (is in a magazine, and 3 levels of writing). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tummydoc Posted May 23, 2007 Share #69 Posted May 23, 2007 About ribbons, certainly the cost of manufacturing is low. But the price need to be low, too! So, otherwise than film, is necessary to exist a HUGE demand. Here in Brazil a new ribbon (medium quality) costs around US$0,50. How much is cost? If 50% only, the producer will gain 25cents per ribbon. He will need do sell a lot, of course. Typewriter ribbons can be manufactured by some company that manufactures any number of other items as well, it doesn't require anywhere near to the same level of specialised personnel or equipment, it can be made up in production runs in sufficient quantity to last for decades because it doesn't expire or require specialised storage conditions. In fact, it wouldn't be surprising if the last typewriter ribbon was manufactured 20 years ago and are being sold from warehoused stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted May 24, 2007 Share #70 Posted May 24, 2007 Film will never disappear even if Kodak and Fuji stop making it and consumers stop using it. Factories in East Europe or China will continue to serve the market much as Efke, Adox, Foma, etc., do today. Further they will tailor there products to artist/photographers rather then consumers or lower price points making for better emulsions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron110n Posted May 24, 2007 Share #71 Posted May 24, 2007 David, About end of film camera manufacturing. I don't think so... Canon has 5 models. EOS (SLR) Camera Systems - Digital EOS Cameras - 35mm EOS Cameras - Lenses - Flashes - Canon USA Consumer Products Nikon has 2 models. Nikon USA Photography Pentax Pentax Imaging Olympus Film Cameras : 35mm Camera - SLR Camera Minolta HOME | KONICA MINOLTA Yashica Analog Camera Leica. Leica Camera AG - M System Leica Camera AG - R System Best, -Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted May 24, 2007 Share #72 Posted May 24, 2007 :cool: :cool: I don't live for digital, no I say I live for rock 'n' film We won't let them push us We won't let them touch us I'll tell you why We're never gonna die It's never gonna die Tell them why We're never gonna die It's never gonna die Lyrics appropriaed from the Chior Boys song Never Gonna Die, place within a new context to satisfy post-modernist thought, even though post modetnism is the past........... we need parody Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted May 24, 2007 Share #73 Posted May 24, 2007 David, About end of film camera manufacturing. I don't think so... Canon has 5 models. EOS (SLR) Camera Systems - Digital EOS Cameras - 35mm EOS Cameras - Lenses - Flashes - Canon USA Consumer Products Nikon has 2 models. Nikon USA Photography Pentax Pentax Imaging Olympus Film Cameras : 35mm Camera - SLR Camera Minolta HOME | KONICA MINOLTA Yashica Analog Camera Leica. Leica Camera AG - M System Leica Camera AG - R System Best, -Ron And Ron you can add to your list Cosina and Zeiss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaLi Posted May 24, 2007 Share #74 Posted May 24, 2007 And Ron you can add to your list Cosina and Zeiss. Right, and you can further add: Franke&Heidecke (Rolleiflex) Hasselblad Mamiya Fuji Olympus Sinar Arca Swiss Alpa Linhof Kamerawerke Dresden (Noblex) Gilde Plaubel Fotoman Minox Horseman Shen-Hao Seagull Great Wall Holga KMZ (Zenit) Lomo Zavod Arsenal Gaoersi Phenix All these companies are manufacturing cameras for film. Furthermore, look at the emerging markets like China, India, Brazil, Mexico, South Africa etc. In the next 30-40 years more than a billion new photographers will be there. Even if only one or two percent of these will use film, it will be enough to keep film alive. So don't worry, shoot film and have fun. Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksparrow Posted May 24, 2007 Share #75 Posted May 24, 2007 just take a look at this: Lomographic Society International 2007 film is cool, at least that what these people try to sell, who knows, maybe enough people will get into it. It's always the same, when digital was hard to find and expensive, it was the cool thing, now, since everyone has a great digicam with a gizillion MP and seven red-eye removing functions, film will become the alternative and hipe. even more compelling evidence: Nostradamus predicted the return of film, it is clearly stated in the centuriy 1: 32 The great Empire will soon be exchanged for a small place, which soon will begin to grow. A small place of tiny area in the middle of which he will come to lay down his scepter. need any more proof? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaCh Posted May 24, 2007 Share #76 Posted May 24, 2007 Video killed off 8mm, oh no wait a minute, it didn't. 8mm just stopped being home movies and became an art form. I do digital and film, neither is better, they are just different. There will always be enough interest to keep quality film stock alive. It will get a bit more expensive but; hey, it's only money. Or do you think we will be reduced to begging for off cuts from the movie studios? I recon you could use them in a still camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms.lau Posted May 25, 2007 Share #77 Posted May 25, 2007 my local professional lab report a recent increase in fim. my printer reports an increase in work.... most jobs i do clients hassle me for the prints, but i like the PROCESS... they just have to wait. it's good for them! fast food or a slow-cooked casserole? i know which i prefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted May 25, 2007 Share #78 Posted May 25, 2007 Laura Hi I like your attitude - don't give in ! Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted May 27, 2007 Share #79 Posted May 27, 2007 To add one more - I just recognized one can still buy Minox film. Minox 8x11 films were very special even in their heyday. In fact with nowadays internet shopping it is ironically much easier to get hold of it than 20 years ago, when only some selected photo stores in large cities kept some stock of it. I guess the machines to make them are still there and are written off anyhow.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted May 28, 2007 Share #80 Posted May 28, 2007 Didn't the Jehovas Witnesses predict that the world would end in year 2000? They also said it would end in 1964. I was just a kid. Outside of Yankee Stadium I sold them fans, to keep them cool, and orange drinks. I was shocked they really believed that. What may happen is; the labs will start to close; E6 is in trouble.. The average person does not use film anymore. The mini labs are dying. The future looks a bit difficult, indeed. It is perhaps better not to think about it too much. Take pictures, while you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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