jaapv Posted March 7, 2015 Share #61 Posted March 7, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Canned air, better not!!! There have been instances of canned air spitting residue on to the sensor, destroying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Hi jaapv, Take a look here Are There Trouble Free M(240)s?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dant Posted March 7, 2015 Share #62 Posted March 7, 2015 All my Leicas (5) have been trouble free except that they all have spots of the sesnor that need to be touched up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dant Posted March 7, 2015 Share #63 Posted March 7, 2015 a year, and 17400 frames, mine has been almost trouble free. I have had 3 lockups that required a battery pull, and i occasionally get the magenta zoomed preview thing happening. aside from that, it has been brilliant (and i really hope i haven't just jinxed myself) I've had lots of lock ups. I don't count them as trouble. It is just a quirk of a Leica. If you miss a shot due to it, then it is trouble though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dant Posted March 7, 2015 Share #64 Posted March 7, 2015 I am really pleased to hear that there are owners of M240s whose cameras work perfectly. It is unfortunate that I have an M240 that has the well documented intermittent issues such as lock-up. I do not like complaining, but feel compelled to particularly given the amount of outlay for the camera. I do hope Leica can come up with a future firmware update that fixes the problems. No big deal, just pop the battery out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dant Posted March 7, 2015 Share #65 Posted March 7, 2015 IMHO when you are a serious photographer, you cannot rely on one camera. Murphy law dictates that...My first experience with Leica many years ago was a failed shutter after 25 frames. I learned the hard way, that even the most reliable camera could be broken. Since then, I always have at least two of them... Yep, good advice. Back in the day, one of Life's staff photogs owned 9 Leicas. He carried three on assignment, had 3 back ups at the hotel and had 3 in the shop being CLA'd. Who can afford to do that nowadays with Leica? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share #66 Posted March 7, 2015 Yep, good advice. Back in the day, one of Life's staff photogs owned 9 Leicas. He carried three on assignment, had 3 back ups at the hotel and had 3 in the shop being CLA'd. Who can afford to do that nowadays with Leica? When your livelihood is photography, this is definitely good advice as long as you don't mind the additional weight and expense. For those of us who are retired or just out shooting for pleasure, missing a shot due to camera failure is merely a disappointment or an inconvenience--not the end of the world. I don't let things like that get me upset anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 8, 2015 Share #67 Posted March 8, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Canned air, better not!!! There have been instances of canned air spitting residue on to the sensor, destroying it. Would dive nitrox/air in oxygen clean bottles also be a problem? This kind of " air " is optimally filtered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Lowe Posted March 9, 2015 Share #68 Posted March 9, 2015 The issue with "canned" air is that it uses chemical propellants which leave behind residue. Actual compressed air I would think would be better, but you don't really want to fire a very high pressure blast of air at an exposed sensor... just my opinion on that, though. I've used a Giottos rocket blower for years and have never had an issue with it. I also carry a couple of swabs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted March 9, 2015 Share #69 Posted March 9, 2015 The issue with "canned" air is that it uses chemical propellants which leave behind residue. Actual compressed air I would think would be better, but you don't really want to fire a very high pressure blast of air at an exposed sensor... just my opinion on that, though. I've used a Giottos rocket blower for years and have never had an issue with it. I also carry a couple of swabs. Of course I would not blow 200 Bar pressure immediatelijk in the sensor area. In the dive world we have regulators, which can regulate the air exhaust very fine. Especially with a tool on the low pressure hose. One can adjust the air speed very fine. Beaver Air Nozzle NOZ by Beaver Sports - DiveLife I notice, that the air comes out even more gentle than with a rocket blower. I used it a few times with my M 240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted March 9, 2015 Share #70 Posted March 9, 2015 Try to squeeze the rocket blower more gentle then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carduelis Posted March 9, 2015 Share #71 Posted March 9, 2015 No big deal, just pop the battery out. Yes that is a solution. But I should not have to do this and could potentially miss a shot of a fleeting event. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted March 9, 2015 Share #72 Posted March 9, 2015 Yes that is a solution. But I should not have to do this and could potentially miss a shot of a fleeting event. Yea... I know what you mean... I used to hate having to change a roll of Tri-X every 36 frames... probably for much the same reason... Jeez.... (I've used my M-P, virtually every day, for six or seven months now and not had to pull the battery (or changed a film) in all that time...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPS Posted March 9, 2015 Share #73 Posted March 9, 2015 Getting back to the original question ... I own two M240's and have not had a single lock-up or problem of any sort whatsoever. I also previously owned an M9 and M8 ... both worked flawlessly. So I am a very happy and enthusiastic digital Leica user! I hate hearing about the problems people have had with their Leica cameras and I worry about the damage it might do to Leica as a brand. I do wonder though what proportion of M240's sold have actually had problems. Reading the forum, it is quite alarming at times as it seems like every M240 sold has run in to difficulty. I imagine the reality is that people come to the forum when they run in to problems ... so the forum ends up being a showcase for cameras with faults! I'm sure I am not unusually lucky ... Iain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted March 9, 2015 Share #74 Posted March 9, 2015 When I worked in the motor trade, almost nobody came into the dealerships to tell us they were happy with their car. A few did but truthfully not many. Faults make people vocal or they walk! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmolinski Posted March 10, 2015 Share #75 Posted March 10, 2015 Mine, bought 12/2013 trouble free until 01/2015. Number of exposures about 4000. End of January first shutter or curtain lag. Since then 4-5 times. Was for service without a change. I had these hang ups rarely but it's somehow irritating... Will watch and care... The camera is a real gem for me and my work. Thinking of a 2nd body but will need to sell my Mono for that what I really do not want )) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
concretist Posted March 10, 2015 Share #76 Posted March 10, 2015 Over the last three months I've purchased a new monochrom, M240, NIB M6, EVF, five new lenses and two used lenses. Everything works perfectly and after seven years of shooting with a Canon 5D MK2 and MK3 I couldn't be more pleased. I'd like to think my experience is the rule and not the exception. My sympathies to the OP. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/241896-are-there-trouble-free-m240s/?do=findComment&comment=2778098'>More sharing options...
fotografr Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share #77 Posted March 10, 2015 Over the last three months I've purchased a new monochrom, M240, NIB M6, EVF, five new lenses and two used lenses. Everything works perfectly and after seven years of shooting with a Canon 5D MK2 and MK3 I couldn't be more pleased. I'd like to think my experience is the rule and not the exception. My sympathies to the OP. Thank you. No sympathies necessary. I just started this thread to help me decide whether to buy the M240. I have decided to do so based partly on the many positive responses here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted March 10, 2015 Share #78 Posted March 10, 2015 You'll have fun with it for sure Brent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HV25 Posted March 10, 2015 Share #79 Posted March 10, 2015 Reading through these threads, one gets the impression the M (typ 240) is plagued with problems. Are there people whose copy has been trouble free? I have mine for nearly two years now and haven't had a single problem. Absolutely perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carduelis Posted March 10, 2015 Share #80 Posted March 10, 2015 When I worked in the motor trade, almost nobody came into the dealerships to tellus they were happy with their car. A few did but truthfully not many. Faults make people vocal or they walk! In the context of this forum, I feel this is not entirely true. Although there may be issues with intermittent faults with the M240, there have been heaps of praise for the Leica M lenses which are outstanding in my opinion. I initiated a thread on the qualities of the 24 mm Elmar lens and have communicated with affection about the 35 mm ASPH Summilux pre-FLE lens. Getting back to the M240, I find it hard to understand why all M240s do not work perfectly like the Japanese cameras that I have ever owned. Presumably each one is made out of the same sourced components and assembled in the same way with the same testing procedures or is quality control questionable? I find in this forum that there is too much protection towards the M240 with the complainer occasionally being unfairly taken to task in not being able to understand how to use their camera properly or being too demanding (not accepting that removing/reinserting the battery should be the norm to address numerous lockups). Given Leica's heritage and reputation and the cost of their equipment, IMO all M240s should work perfectly in my view or at worst have very minor glitches (beyond core functionality) that can be readily solved in a firmware update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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