sumolux Posted November 8, 2015 Share #201 Posted November 8, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) A rangefinder is hardly the best tool for long bulb exposures and the M240 is closer to the end than the beginning of its life so there is little chance that a firmware update adds new features that were not chosen by Leica three years ago IMHO. Really? The history of the rangefinder also includes the M7....Which will count down from 16 minutes and apart from that has a real 'B' mode. In fact what the OP needs in my view is an M7; it would serve him very well until the limitations of digital are solved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Hi sumolux, Take a look here Leica M 240: It's serious drawbacks for landscape shooters – but can we fix it?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pico Posted November 8, 2015 Share #202 Posted November 8, 2015 Most landscape these days is done on 35mm digital, it is far superior to APS-C digital. Neither is medium format (MF). By MF I mean at least 56mm X * were X is 56 to 120mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted November 8, 2015 Share #203 Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Really? The history of the rangefinder also includes the M7....Which will count down from 16 minutes Sixteen minutes? Are you sure? Sorry, you are right. In Manual mode it's 999 seconds. (And forever on Bulb) Edited November 8, 2015 by pico 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted November 8, 2015 Share #204 Posted November 8, 2015 Neither is medium format (MF). By MF I mean at least 56mm X * were X is 56 to 120mm. I will still take a digital Leica over a MF film body for landscape. There is a lot more flexibility for editing and perfecting the photo in post. Which is a lot more important than the general image resolution. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted November 8, 2015 Share #205 Posted November 8, 2015 I will still take a digital Leica over a MF film body for landscape. There is a lot more flexibility for editing and perfecting the photo in post. Which is a lot more important than the general image resolution. It is good that we have many choices. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumolux Posted November 8, 2015 Share #206 Posted November 8, 2015 I will still take a digital Leica over a MF film body for landscape. There is a lot more flexibility for editing and perfecting the photo in post. Which is a lot more important than the general image resolution. A perfectly valid viewpoint. I sometimes do both: analogue film, and then scan and work digital post production on certain shots. Best of both worlds so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted November 9, 2015 Share #207 Posted November 9, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I will still take a digital Leica over a MF film body for landscape. There is a lot more flexibility for editing and perfecting the photo in post. Which is a lot more important than the general image resolution.Image resolution issue can be solved my stitching (in many cases). I have taken 100+megapixel landscape picture by using stitched shots from 90mm lens. Digital allows me to do that. I just need a big enough empty wall in my house to display details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cldp Posted November 9, 2015 Share #208 Posted November 9, 2015 35mm Lux - 8 seconds @1600 ISO. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The Leica rangefinder isn't for everyone or everything. Nevertheless, I find its positives far outweigh the negatives. I shoot almost entirely landscapes and have never felt my creativity was hampered. I actually save time with most shots since the M is so easy to set hyperfocal distance. Perhaps my 40+ years with Leica gear has influenced my opinion. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The Leica rangefinder isn't for everyone or everything. Nevertheless, I find its positives far outweigh the negatives. I shoot almost entirely landscapes and have never felt my creativity was hampered. I actually save time with most shots since the M is so easy to set hyperfocal distance. Perhaps my 40+ years with Leica gear has influenced my opinion. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/240073-leica-m-240-its-serious-drawbacks-for-landscape-shooters-%E2%80%93-but-can-we-fix-it/?do=findComment&comment=2924685'>More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted November 10, 2015 Share #209 Posted November 10, 2015 The big advantage of film over digital for long exposures is its reciprocity characteristics. The longer the exposure, the more balance you can achieve between the shadows and the highlights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ileicabeer Posted April 27, 2016 Share #210 Posted April 27, 2016 I just now checked again to make sure I was not smoking something when I gave the steps. I also noticed that you need to be in B mode which was missing in prev steps. This is what I did: - Set B mode on shutter dial - Auto ISO mode with max ISO 3200. - Simulate night sky by putting cap on the lens. - 10 second delay timer. Press the shutter and check the EXIF. Mine showed ISO 800 and 60 sec. For me it is repeatable. (note: my firmware is 2.0.1.5) Worked for me. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philcycles Posted April 29, 2016 Share #211 Posted April 29, 2016 Hello all A few months back I finally fulfilled my dream and got myself the M 240. The digital Leica M body I always have wanted. So far it's been stunning experience and I love shooting with it. M 240 and SEM 21 are particularly a special combo together. What the M has brought me for the first time I truly enjoy shooting street photography. However, I have always enjoyed landscape shooting the most. I was aware of the drawbacks of M 240 when I purchased it. If you don't know what I am talking about I mean the following problems: - One minute maximum exposure = It's a disgrace to even call it bulb mode - No way to turn off LENR (Long exposure noise reduction) = practical disadvantage: try shooting fireworks when the guy next to you is going to get twice as many shots as you are - Long exposure with high ISO is even more limited = astrophotography is impossible - Inability to move the focus point on live view when zoomed in It seems that you are asking the 240 to do something it isn't meant to do-long exposures. It's a bit like complaining that a hammer isn't a power drill. I've shot landscapes for 40 years with M Leicas, including the 240. Never a problem and the photos are as good as I can make them. The camera never held me back. Now, I don't take long exposures and you do. Perhaps another body that can is the answer for you. But it isn't the camera's fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCO34 Posted May 3, 2016 Share #212 Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) I have done landscapes with many different cameras over the years from heavy Lindhof's on sturdy tripods to Hassy's and of course the Leica's. If I need to take a very long exposure with the use of a heavy tripod anyway I would use one of the larger cameras more suited to that. The joy of the Leica is that it is light, small, has great optics and always with me. It does not do everything well but many things wonderfully. I don't use my sedan to haul fertilizer. Edited May 3, 2016 by JOCO34 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted May 4, 2016 Share #213 Posted May 4, 2016 I haven't read all the replies here but must say that the title is highly misleading. "Leica M 240: It's [sic] serious drawbacks for landscape shooters – but can we fix it?" The perceived serious drawbacks turn out to be those for astrophotographers and those requiring very long exposures of more than 1min only. What percentage of landscape pictures does that account for? For me, zero. As for fiddling with manual focus points using the LCD, it's primarily a rangefinder camera. That is what makes it unique -- or why not choose another camera in the first place? I find it incredible anyone would shell out for what is undoubtedly a very expensive photographic tool without doing some basic research. Perhaps posters should take more care to ensure what they are writing is indeed accurate. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted February 18, 2018 Share #214 Posted February 18, 2018 Not sure if this has been mentioned but the M10 offers greater long exposure potential. Here are the ISO levels and time limits: ISO TIME 100 125s 200 125s 400 125s 800 60s 1600 32s 3200 16s 6400 8s 12500 4s 25000 4s 50000 2s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpittal Posted February 19, 2018 Share #215 Posted February 19, 2018 and the SL allows 30min exposures (mechanical shutter) at 100 ISO (and probably others). Electronic shutter cuts off at 1 sec though (but does allow from 1/10,000 to 1/18,000 at the other end!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbu2 Posted February 23, 2018 Share #216 Posted February 23, 2018 Astrophotography... maybe not best done with the M240, but not impossible; see this thread: https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/278569-astrophography-with-the-m240/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaubauu2009 Posted February 27, 2018 Share #217 Posted February 27, 2018 Not sure if this has been mentioned but the M10 offers greater long exposure potential. Here are the ISO levels and time limits: ISO TIME 100 125s 200 125s 400 125s 800 60s 1600 32s 3200 16s 6400 8s 12500 4s 25000 4s 50000 2s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk M10 can do Astro for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted February 27, 2018 Share #218 Posted February 27, 2018 M10 can do Astro for sure I’ve never done Astro but will give it a try soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblutter Posted February 27, 2018 Share #219 Posted February 27, 2018 I get totally acceptable static night shots with the 240 even at ISO 640 with self timer & tripod. For street, 2500 ISO, no prob I leave astro pics to the specialists. If I had to, I'd use a 4x5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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