Jeff S Posted January 22, 2015 Share #161 Posted January 22, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just a reminder to Jaap and Jeff S who have 'sort of' put the CCD sensor 'down' that this thread is not, IMO, declaring it to the equal or better than the M CMOS. My response was directly to Wilfredo (who said "really?" after Jaap merely said that he hadn't seen a shot that made a specific point for CCD). I never said one was better than the other; I said one could not tell the difference here. And I said that I own the M8.2 (two of them at one point, that I praised for years here, and continue to praise). I use the M now for reasons that have little to do with IQ. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted January 22, 2015 Share #162 Posted January 22, 2015 ...Those of you who have been waiting for an excuse to upgrade your M9/M9P ME and M Monochrom to the latest greatest Leica M, will never be satisfied with the latest greatest Leica M . Can join as well . Erl, from the OP's first post. I am satisfied with the latest M…and joining the discussion as invited. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted January 22, 2015 Share #163 Posted January 22, 2015 Jeff, my post was in response to what I interpreted as 'nothing I see posted here couldn't be done by the M CCD sensors'. Excuse my paraphrasing. Of course that is true. I was just trying to gently indicate that this thread is not a competion between sensors, just a stand alone praise of the M CCD. My intention was nothing more than that. Of course I would be amongst the first to say what we see here is more a showcase of photographers rather than any serious indication of sensor quality. The good news is, while typing I just got a text declaring that my M9-P is ready for collection after having a delaminated sensor replace. :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeleng Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share #164 Posted January 22, 2015 Leica M9P CCD Sensor Don't lose faith with the CCD sensor, I'm sure mine will have problems in the not to distant future, and I will get it replaced by Leica , good for them. This site is full of negatives, typical responses I would say from most forums on the net, but for me the positives far out way the negatives . I'm just having a ball at the moment with my Leica M9P and Leica Digilux 2 . Mike Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2751279'>More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted January 31, 2015 Share #165 Posted January 31, 2015 M9 + MS-Optical 50/1.1 Sonnetar (190 grams) @ f/2 Coffee Baron by unoh7, on Flickr Sonnetar and fast friends by unoh7, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSR Posted January 31, 2015 Share #166 Posted January 31, 2015 My sensor is in for replacement on my MM at the moment - only a 2-week turnaround and changed on site by my local dealer. I'm not sure if I would have lasted 3 months (the shakes have already started). I must say that, having lost my love of photography, the character of the MM has turned that around and I am rarely to be found without it. Having plucked up the courage to post on here - there are some truly amazing images! I cannot believe that I would have managed this without the unique properties of the MM (although that may not be a true CCD vs CMOS issue). Watching the watchers Zeiss Sonnar 50mm taken at ISO 1250, f2.8, no cropping (the EXIF data lies!) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2756277'>More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted January 31, 2015 Share #167 Posted January 31, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1950 J-3, wide-open at F1.5, M Monochrom, ISO 5000. Skate and Fun zone J-3 wide-open, ISO 10,000. Skate and Fun zone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 1, 2015 Share #168 Posted February 1, 2015 fountain_38sonnar_iso2500_f15 M9, ISO2500, 1938 CZJ 5cm F1.5 Sonnar T, wide-open, custom converted to Leica mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhoh7 Posted February 1, 2015 Share #169 Posted February 1, 2015 28 cron wide open: L1027595-2 by unoh7, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenshacker Posted February 1, 2015 Share #170 Posted February 1, 2015 Leica M8 using M8RAW2DNG and the button dance. ISO2500 eqv, ISO160 underexposed 4 stops corrected in Photoshop. Night_Fight_Color_ISO2500eqv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyField Posted February 2, 2015 Share #171 Posted February 2, 2015 The M9 is my walk-about camera. On the whole, I find it's colouration to be a bit too much like Kodachrome ... and therefore I often process in B&W. However, with a bit of colour / saturation adjustment I find everything works out well for what I shoot. Sometimes, I even use the Leica in a "studio" (i.e. my living room) and can get final image results that I like after a bit of post-processing. In other words, I LIKE the CCD ... it simply WORKS !! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2758187'>More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted February 3, 2015 Share #172 Posted February 3, 2015 Human nature is competitive, especially male human nature, and although this thread was not meant as a competition, CCD vs. CMOS, some want it to be. To my eye, the CCD renders more realistic skin tones, and that's the appeal to me. When it comes to B&W conversion, it simply is the best. There is a depth in the CCD sensor that I dread will be lost with the triumphant march of the CMOS sensor for commercial purposes. I hope my MM is not the last of the great CCD cameras! This shot was done with my then Leica M8, which I sold to purchase the MM. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2758487'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 4, 2015 Share #173 Posted February 4, 2015 When it comes to B&W conversion, it simply is the best. Not for me; I like b/w (prints) from my M as well or better than from my M8.2. Total workflow is key. Not competition, just personal opinion and preference. (BTW, you're the one stating things as fact…I prefer to just state preference.) Viva la choice. We'll see about the eventual new MM. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafster Posted February 4, 2015 Share #174 Posted February 4, 2015 All I see is two different opinion. What one like, prefer or work, may not be another person cup of tea. If it works, it works. If not, find something else that suits. At the end, it is always the final content of a photograph that speaks volume. Whichever the type of camera use, the camera itself don't decide the content. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted February 5, 2015 Share #175 Posted February 5, 2015 All I see is two different opinion. But there's a difference between saying "It's simply the best" versus "It's simply the best for me." Opinions, both….but only one that's not a statement of universal superiority. What one like, prefer or work, may not be another person cup of tea. If it works, it works. If not, find something else that suits. Exactly. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocki Posted February 5, 2015 Share #176 Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks! I totally agree. the CCD is wonderful and for me who used M cameras since more than 40 years the M9-P comes closest to my M4-P and M6 the picture was taken last week in Edinburgh with the M9-P. Peter Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2759732'>More sharing options...
fraswa Posted February 6, 2015 Share #177 Posted February 6, 2015 CV 40mm 1.4 M9-P (i have a canon 6D + 24L,50L,85L and color is nowhere this CCD-good!) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2760204'>More sharing options...
bobbywise Posted February 8, 2015 Share #178 Posted February 8, 2015 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M9-P and 75mm Cron APO Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M9-P and 75mm Cron APO ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2761333'>More sharing options...
andym911 Posted February 12, 2015 Share #179 Posted February 12, 2015 There are some damn good shots in this thread....one of the best collections of images on the forum...well done to all! andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted February 12, 2015 Share #180 Posted February 12, 2015 and one of my daughter working on the garlic best andy Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238441-in-defence-of-the-ccd-sensor-in-the-leica-m-cameras/?do=findComment&comment=2763676'>More sharing options...
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