bocaburger Posted November 30, 2014 Share #41 Posted November 30, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I got a Fogg (I think it was a b-laika or b-minor) in LN- condition from KEH a few years ago and sent it back within their 2-wk trial period. I was shocked and disappointed to see that it was made of virtually identical material and construction quality as Billingham's costing half as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted November 30, 2014 Share #42 Posted November 30, 2014 I was shocked and disappointed to see that it was made of virtually identical material and construction quality as Billingham's costing half as much. I've owned both, and the materials and construction have differed, although both high quality. Materials have evolved over the years at both companies. The Billingham Hadley Pro (that I recently got in order to include a laptop) is available, for instance, in both canvas as well as synthetic material. My old (couple of decades) Fogg b-laika, all black, doesn't exist in the same form today, as fabric suppliers, interior materials, dimensions, etc. have changed….and the price has about tripled. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share #43 Posted December 1, 2014 For the purposes of discussion, let's look at three bags that are more or less equal in terms of dimensions - Fogg Forte: $869 USD Oberwerth Freiberg: $620 USD Billingham Hadley Pro: $259 USD If we can proceed under the belief that all three are pretty much on equal footing in terms of design, materials and workmanship - the Billingham seems to make an awfully strong case for itself. Or perhaps I'm just being a cheap bastard... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted December 1, 2014 Share #44 Posted December 1, 2014 Out of those three options, I would choose the Billingham every time. In black Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrycym Posted December 1, 2014 Share #45 Posted December 1, 2014 Out of those three options, I would choose the Billingham every time. In black I have one those and it works fine for me. I hate bags that have fiddly buckles you have to under to get into the bag. The way the Hadley works is great. I guess that finishes the thread What's more to discuss? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Photo Posted December 1, 2014 Share #46 Posted December 1, 2014 These are the prices over here in Germany for three comparable Leica bags in the size the TO asked for. Fogg b-laika = 450 EUR Operwerth Freiburg = 379 EUR Billingham Leica = 230 EUR I do really liked my Hadley Pro, too, but for a M + 3 lenses far too big for me. But you can't do anything wrong with a Billingham, great bags. All three bags are different from materials to design. Personally I am willing to pay the extra money for the Fogg simply because of the way these bags are build by two people and I like supporting this way of craftsmanship. The Oberwerth is handmade in Germany, so I like supporting the guy next corner. If Fogg&Oberwerth would produce the same amount of bags worldwide the way Billingham is doing it, prices would drop, too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted December 1, 2014 Share #47 Posted December 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have the Leica branded Billingham as well. I can get my 21/28/50/90 inside together with a digital body, a film body in the front pocket, and a mini tablet or old fashioned notebook in the back. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share #48 Posted December 2, 2014 Out of those three options, I would choose the Billingham every time. In black I chose the sand color Hadley Pro for when it's 105F during the summer to help keep my cameras & lenses cooler. Black would be my choice for night time street photography, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted December 2, 2014 Share #49 Posted December 2, 2014 I chose the sand color Hadley Pro for when it's 105F during the summer to help keep my cameras & lenses cooler...... Which bag do you use to keep your camera warm? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoskeptic Posted December 2, 2014 Share #50 Posted December 2, 2014 Surprised Thorsten Overgaard hasn't weighed in as he is no shrinking violet and DOES make a fashion statement with his bags and dress. I think he favors a Louie Vuitton. I don't use a bag anymore (for a Leica*) - if I need an extra lens (rarely) I just drop it into a jacket pocket. When I travel I carry a Gura Gear Chobe and drop in my Leica covered with an Optech neoprene cover. And I like the little soft leather lenses bags. For my DSLR and heavy Zeiss lenses for field work I use an F stop Loka. *back when I did carry multiple lenses I used an Artist & Artisan Oskar day bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share #51 Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) I'm not nearly fabulous enough to carry a Louise Vitton. Besides, I don't think a camera bag should cost as much as an M lens - http://us.louisvuitton.com/eng-us/products/camera-bag-damier-graphite-000416 Edited December 2, 2014 by Carlos Danger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkR440 Posted December 2, 2014 Share #52 Posted December 2, 2014 Getting a camera bag with some style was my goal when I bought the Leica camera. I tried different camera bags but they are all more functional bags. The camera bag that I'm the most happy with is my backpack from ONA. But I think the best way is, to buy a normal bag that you like and put a special insert for cameras inside. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhluxton Posted December 5, 2014 Share #53 Posted December 5, 2014 I have used a Billingham since 1982 and wouldn't consider anything else. They are well made, last forever and hold a decent resale value. I currently have a Hadley Pro with pockets, which I can put on the Billingham Leica Combination bag. I also have a 20 year old compact bag which is ideal for carrying an X1 when travelling light. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share #54 Posted December 7, 2014 Here's another option in leather, at a garage sale price: PU Leather Brown Shoulder Bag Camera Case Pouch for DSLR SLR Canon Nikon Sony | eBay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted December 7, 2014 Share #55 Posted December 7, 2014 Here's another option in leather, at a garage sale price: PU Leather Brown Shoulder Bag Camera Case Pouch for DSLR SLR Canon Nikon Sony | eBay Definitely cheap, but not leather...... "PU (Poly) Synthetic Leather is a man made material that will represent the look and feel of Genuine Leather but in fact is NOT. This PU material is far less durable, considerably cheaper in cost, and may not last long if used often" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted December 7, 2014 Share #56 Posted December 7, 2014 Here you are guy's, this is the bag All-in-one: Ona Capri bag review: Digital Photography Review Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted December 8, 2014 Share #57 Posted December 8, 2014 So when did this expensive fancy leather and brass camera bag phenomenon come into vogue? I can't quite picture any of the old guard Leica users like Friedlander or the others out in public with one... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/237529-premium-camera-bags-which-one/?do=findComment&comment=2723316'>More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share #58 Posted December 8, 2014 From the "Holy Crap" department: Leica System Case, Schedoni - Leica Store Miami Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted December 8, 2014 Share #59 Posted December 8, 2014 So when did this expensive fancy leather and brass camera bag phenomenon come into vogue? At about the same time that buying and owning a Leica became an alternative to sex. Steve 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted December 8, 2014 Share #60 Posted December 8, 2014 Sir, with a trophy wife, a BMW "M" & 4 Leicas, I can assure you All my toys and husbandly duties are carried out to the fullest extent. Sent from my internet & voice connected wheel chair... lol 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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