wilfredo Posted December 17, 2014 Share #61 Posted December 17, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) How about we all go out and take some photographs and stop obsessing about what isn't? My MM is working as it should today, I am only alive in the present moment. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted December 17, 2014 Share #62 Posted December 17, 2014 I don’t think so (and neither do I hope so). Nor do I. Altough it might appeal to a small group of users and I would look at it longingly from a distance, I doubt sales would exceed a hundred worldwide, making the camera not very attractive from a turnover point of view. There could be a special edition I suppose, though. -At a price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 17, 2014 Share #63 Posted December 17, 2014 How about we all go out and take some photographs and stop obsessing about what isn't? My MM is working as it should today, I am only alive in the present moment. Cheers! Wilfredo - While I agree with you at a certain level, plunking down $8K for anything is a big deal to most people. With the MM now about 2 years old, I sympathize with the concerns that some prospective MM owners may have regarding whether it is cost-beneficial to wait just a little longer before making the plunge. This all goes to your point, which is that time is precious. With regard to making an MM without a screen, given the hyper-sensitivity to blowing highlights (particularly relative to film and even to other digital Ms), being able to check this in the screen is really critical to confirming exposure, which in a scene with bright highlights, deviates a little from the traditional "sunny 16" scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnew Posted December 18, 2014 Share #64 Posted December 18, 2014 A camera without screen does not mean that the user has no means to check the shots via a smartphone for instance. But it avoids chimping and pushes also the designer to really focus on true functionality. (which may be obviously dependent of the type of users) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted December 18, 2014 Share #65 Posted December 18, 2014 A camera without screen does not mean that the user has no means to check the shots via a smartphone for instance. But it avoids chimping and pushes also the designer to really focus on true functionality. (which may be obviously dependent of the type of users) Two points... How do you propose to synchronise camera with basic electronic interface (no menu accessible via rear LCD) with a smart phone? Possession of smart phone is not mandatory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 18, 2014 Share #66 Posted December 18, 2014 A camera without screen does not mean that the user has no means to check the shots via a smartphone for instance. But it avoids chimping and pushes also the designer to really focus on true functionality. (which may be obviously dependent of the type of users) Isn't that rather contradictory with a minimalist, back-to-basics camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jvansmit Posted December 19, 2014 Share #67 Posted December 19, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) A camera without screen does not mean that the user has no means to check the shots via a smartphone for instance. But it avoids chimping and pushes also the designer to really focus on true functionality. (which may be obviously dependent of the type of users) I'd quite like a hybrid monochrome-M60 ....with an ISO dial on the back like the M60 and also an inward facing display that can be flipped down when needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Livingston Posted December 19, 2014 Share #68 Posted December 19, 2014 Me too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 19, 2014 Share #69 Posted December 19, 2014 I'd quite like a hybrid monochrome-M60 ....with an ISO dial on the back like the M60 and also an inward facing display that can be flipped down when needed It would add another couple of mm to the thickness of the camera.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnew Posted December 19, 2014 Share #70 Posted December 19, 2014 Isn't that rather contradictory with a minimalist, back-to-basics camera? It would provide the "possibility" for less minimalists. But not physically part of the camera and not a functionality that is mandatory to use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnew Posted December 19, 2014 Share #71 Posted December 19, 2014 Two points... How do you propose to synchronise camera with basic electronic interface (no menu accessible via rear LCD) with a smart phone? Possession of smart phone is not mandatory. I did not suggest that the camera should have basic electronics. Wi-fi memory cards is a possibility, or on camera wi-fi is now available on many cheaper models. Please note that it would be only a feature for people not comfortable to wait to see their pictures on a screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted December 22, 2014 Share #72 Posted December 22, 2014 While I am still fairly confident that a CMOS-based successor to the M Monochrom will come some day, I have no idea when that will be and what the camera will look like. And I guess that if a press release was imminent then I would know by this time. Well, if Michael doesn't know, and i haven't seen one, then I guess it's going to be a while at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted January 5, 2015 Share #73 Posted January 5, 2015 The Leica Rumors site says this morning that a new MM will be announced in February/March. But they've been saying that for some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 5, 2015 Share #74 Posted January 5, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised, even if Michael and Jono are suggesting otherwise. Leica will probably be quite keen to move on from the CCD Monochrom sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2015 Share #75 Posted January 5, 2015 Well, if Michael doesn't know, and i haven't seen one, then I guess it's going to be a while at least. Surely you two have non disclosure agreements so even if you had one in your bag this minute you would not be able to say. It reminds me of the statement Stefan Danials made about 2 months before the launch of the M9. Something on the lines of Leica where still some way from solving the problems of a full size sensor. I think the only thing they where woried about solving was shifting the last of the M8.2 ,s. (grin) BrianP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2015 Share #76 Posted January 5, 2015 I'm not so sure about the last one. In May/June I know for a fact that they were still fiddling with the M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2015 Share #77 Posted January 5, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised, even if Michael and Jono are suggesting otherwise. Leica will probably be quite keen to move on from the CCD Monochrom sooner rather than later. A consideration that may well bring a proposed introduction date quite a bit forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 5, 2015 Share #78 Posted January 5, 2015 Surely you two have non disclosure agreements so even if you had one in your bag this minute you would not be able to say. No, but as long as I have not I am free to admit as much. Conversely, if I knew about some new model I wouldn’t claim I did not. I would just keep silent and let others do the speculating, having a good laugh now and then. (In any case I have never – as far as I remember – signed an NDA with Leica. While I have signed quite a few stiffly formal NDAs with various vendors over the years, these days most NDAs are informal or merely implied – more like a gentlemen’s agreement really. But then of course, honouring NDAs is part of the job, even if you no longer have to sign with your own blood and forfeit your firstborn, as you did in the good old times.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 5, 2015 Share #79 Posted January 5, 2015 A consideration that may well bring a proposed introduction date quite a bit forward. That would make it two years forward according to your assessment in post #8. If a new model emerges in the next month or two, that will suggest to me that Leica was well ahead of your time frame, and/or they knew about the seriousness of the M9 sensor issues long before they acknowledged. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2015 Share #80 Posted January 5, 2015 Quite possible, on both counts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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