Doc Henry Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share #381 Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi there Guys, On this family pic You can see from left, my mum, my grandfather friend's, grandfather, and my girlfriend. We were on Sunday afternoon, and the activity here consisted in sorting vegetables leaves for the evening meal. These leaves are called "brèdes" in creole, which are very popular in Reunion Island to accompany dishes with rice and meat, it tastes a bit like spinach. " Bon appétit ! " Jean Summicron50mmV4 M7 HP5 emilie_hp5_phfamil.jpg Thanks Jean Bad light condition , well rendered A summicron still a good lens , probably open at f:2 for this picture Henry Edited May 14, 2016 by Doc Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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janorun974 Posted May 14, 2016 Share #382 Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Thanks Jean Bad light condition , well rendered A summicron still a good lens , probably open at f:2 for this picture Henry Hi Henry, the cron 50 is still a good lens for his 33 years old, for this picture, open at f5.6 for a better control of dof on the scene. and for answer to your question concerning the m7 paint, it is a black laquered paint. regards jean ps: I've done a fault, it was not hp5 but ilford fp4... Edited May 14, 2016 by janorun974 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share #383 Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Hi Henry, the cron 50 is still a good lens for his 33 years old, for this picture, open at f5.6 for a better control of dof on the scene. and for answer to your question concerning the m7 paint, it is a black laquered paint. regards jean ps: I've done a fault, it was not hp5 but ilford fp4... Thanks for your reply Jean . Well lacquered it's superb ! With my M7 and MP I have tried both HP5 400 and TX400 In the style I like ie deep black and true white they are both good and the b&w tonality is superb , may be a bit better with TX The develpment of Kodak TX is better in Kodak D76 dilution 1:1 than Ilfotech Rg H. Edited May 14, 2016 by Doc Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janorun974 Posted May 14, 2016 Share #384 Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) ok thanks, I will try the tri x soon, I've heard it has a great exposition lattitude! I must developp at 24degrees each time on island, I prefer avoid a temperature difference which could cause bad surprise on film emulsion... You're right, film is amazing, and inimitable! once time, I wanted to trade my m7 for a monochrom v1... but, finally keep the m7, and I don't regret it... film has something we can't get with digital sensor... I had a mp too, very good experience too, but sold it for a bunch when I need money for an other project.. my camera dream is a mp6 with original vulcanite I could trade my m7 and mellenium cron for it ah ah Thanks for your reply Jean . Well lacquered it's superb ! With my M7 and MP I have tried both HP5 400 and TX400 In the style I like ie deep black and true white they are both good and the b&w tonality is superb , may be a bit better with TX The develpment of Kodak TX is better in Kodak D76 dilution 1:1 than Ilfotech Rg H. Edited May 14, 2016 by janorun974 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share #385 Posted May 14, 2016 ok thanks, I will try the tri x soon, I've heard it has a great exposition lattitude! I must developp at 24degrees each time on island, I prefer avoid a temperature difference which could cause bad surprise on film emulsion... You're right, film is amazing, and inimitable! once time, I wanted to trade my m7 for a monochrom v1... but, finally keep the m7, and I don't regret it... film has something we can't get with digital sensor... I had a mp too, very good experience too, but sold it for a bunch when I need money for an other project.. my camera dream is a mp6 with original vulcanite I could trade my m7 and mellenium cron for it ah ah Jean if too hot (24°C) decrease the dev time 4mn 45 sec versus 6mn45 sec for 20°C D76 Kodak Professional developer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janorun974 Posted May 15, 2016 Share #386 Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) People dancing on the "Maloya", traditional music of Reunion Island, the mesmerizing mixture of percussions and lyrics often pays tribute to the ancestors. M7_summicron28 ilford xp2 ps: if you had never listened this music, tape "danyel waro " on web browser, he's a great artist. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 15, 2016 by janorun974 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/233570-i-love-my-m7/?do=findComment&comment=3045001'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share #387 Posted May 15, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) People dancing on the "Maloya", traditional music of Reunion Island, the mesmerizing mixture of percussions and lyrics often pays tribute to the ancestors. M7_summicron28 ilford xp2 ps: if you had never listened this music, tape "danyel waro " on web browser, he's a great artist. Nice shot Jean , XP2 is developed by C41 process ? If you like Ilford try HP5 400isos and develop yourself Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janorun974 Posted May 15, 2016 Share #388 Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Hi Henry! how are You? for sure, c41 process lab is bad, otherwise, when I develop hp5 myself, is better than this xp2 shot xp2 is a c41 process, do you know other way to develop it? Nice shot Jean , XP2 is developed by C41 process ? If you like Ilford try HP5 400isos and develop yourself Best Henry Edited May 15, 2016 by janorun974 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted May 15, 2016 Share #389 Posted May 15, 2016 I haven't done it myself, but I understand it can be processed in Rodinal quite successfully. Gary 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share #390 Posted May 15, 2016 Hi Henry! how are You? for sure, c41 process lab is bad, otherwise, when I develop hp5 myself, is better than this xp2 shot xp2 is a c41 process, do you know other way to develop it? I haven't done it myself, but I understand it can be processed in Rodinal quite successfully. Gary Yes I agree with Gary I reserve C41 for all my color film that needs 30°C constantly You can try and see the difference H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 15, 2016 Share #391 Posted May 15, 2016 I have a bad case of GAS... I have been thinking about getting a MP. However when I compare my M7 to the MP, I think it would not be an upgrade. Advantages of a M7 -More accurate shutter. -Aperture priority. -Shutter speed dial works the same way as it's digital brothers: Very important if you switch between film and digital a lot. -M4 type film rewind lever. -Arrows on the meter reflect the direction that you must adjust shutter speed and aperture. (I know this is a repeat, but it's important) -Value: M7's are cheaper on the used market -DX: You don't have to remember the ISO when changing film. Advantages of a MP -Batteries: If the batteries die on a MP the camera continues to be functional at all speeds, whereas on the M7 you only have two shutter speeds. While this is a fact, it's not really representative of how things work in the real world. On the MP only the meter stops functioning, that means you need to judge the lighting conditions your self or take out your external meter. A spare set of batteries is a lot smaller than most meters, so on the M7 you change your batteries and go on. Just like you would on your digital M. -DX: MP does not have a DX reader nor the complexities of exposure comp. The M7 is backwards in my view for setting exposure comp. -Prestige: An MP is seen as better, so it must be better and of course higher price. In both cases early versions have the M6 viewfinder, and later an upgraded viewfinder for both the MP and M7, so that’s the same. So after comparing the two, the M7 seems to be a more modern and functional camera. I just need to remember to take extra batteries... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share #392 Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Hi Soden, agree if you come from M8 or M9 and if you want go back to film (my case) , M7 is your camera , switch to option "A" and the camera is ready to shoot Never lose one picture specially for a "decisive moment" in the manner of HC Bresson . Now if you have time to compose , switch to "manual" option ... like a MP ! ... and you have "good" results but in film Depardon is right "M7 the fastest camera" Rg H Edited May 15, 2016 by Doc Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 15, 2016 Share #393 Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Well film is film and Leica lenses are Leica lenses, so the only differences are in the user interface. All M's have manual. But the M7 is the only film M that approaches M digital. That is an advantage. It's amazing how many M digital users show me a photo of their MP (on their iPhone) and claim it as a bag of honor. Edited May 15, 2016 by Soden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share #394 Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Well film is film and Leica lenses are Leica lenses, so the only differences are in the user interface. All M's have manual. But the M7 is the only film M that approaches M digital. That is an advantage. It's amazing how many M digital users show me a photo of their MP (on their iPhone) and claim it as a bag of honor. Yes ... and soon with Huawei in place of iPhone http://www.challenges.fr/galeries-photos/test-high-tech/20160513.CHA9120/le-test-de-l-appareil-photo-leica-du-p9-de-huawei.html Someone with Leica gear since 1970 Edited May 15, 2016 by Doc Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 15, 2016 Share #395 Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) Yes ... and soon with Huawei http://www.challenges.fr/galeries-photos/test-high-tech/20160513.CHA9120/le-test-de-l-appareil-photo-leica-du-p9-de-huawei.html Someone with Leica gear since 1970 1970? I was in Jr high then and I'm old... You must have been born with a Leica in your hand. Edited May 15, 2016 by Soden 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted May 15, 2016 Share #396 Posted May 15, 2016 Well film is film and Leica lenses are Leica lenses, so the only differences are in the user interface. All M's have manual. But the M7 is the only film M that approaches M digital. That is an advantage. It's amazing how many M digital users show me a photo of their MP (on their iPhone) and claim it as a bag of honor. I would think the handling consistency between your two cameras is the most important thing here with price properly being secondary (this is Leica after all). If the M7 works in a manner that eases the jump to and from your digital camera use then that's the way to go. For you. The pricing for used M7s only works in your favor. Yes film is film, and for that reason the very accurate shutter of the M7 is sort of unnecessary. All Leica shutters are more than accurate enough for the job. The Auto mode is the important part here, not the accuracy per se. Your entire post up-thread reads like you're just having a hard time talking yourself out of an MP. Nothing wrong with that, but remember having an MP is not a badge of honor; Leica will sell one to absolutely anybody who ponys up the cash. Like a "Limited Edition" automobile. What it's all about is showing people pictures from your MP, not of it. That goes for any camera. I'll add that I have an MP, ALC to boot and believe me 'it' has taken a ton of real crappy shots. Badge or no badge. But I've no regrets whatsoever. Film is cool, enjoy whatever you end up with, s-a 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 15, 2016 Share #397 Posted May 15, 2016 I would think the handling consistency between your two cameras is the most important thing here with price properly being secondary (this is Leica after all). If the M7 works in a manner that eases the jump to and from your digital camera use then that's the way to go. For you. The pricing for used M7s only works in your favor. Yes film is film, and for that reason the very accurate shutter of the M7 is sort of unnecessary. All Leica shutters are more than accurate enough for the job. The Auto mode is the important part here, not the accuracy per se. Your entire post up-thread reads like you're just having a hard time talking yourself out of an MP. Nothing wrong with that, but remember having an MP is not a badge of honor; Leica will sell one to absolutely anybody who ponys up the cash. Like a "Limited Edition" automobile. What it's all about is showing people pictures from your MP, not of it. That goes for any camera. I'll add that I have an MP, ALC to boot and believe me 'it' has taken a ton of real crappy shots. Badge or no badge. But I've no regrets whatsoever. Film is cool, enjoy whatever you end up with, s-a If the MP is not a badge of honor then why do many MP owners laugh when I mention I have a M7? They seem to think that the M7 is less than the MP... I kind of compare it to Porsche, which model do you have... I have had my M7 for about 8 years, I bought it to backup my M8 I had then. I'll probably keep it always. However I am thinking about a second film body to backup the M7. The question is go with another M7 or something else like a MP or M5... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share #398 Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) In talking about High Fidelity , it's the same fight (image and music) ie the "quality" in reproduction and the faithfulness, I prefer now by far my M7 or my MP No comparison and without appeal for me http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/258680-turntable-recommendations/page-2 I said that because my M8 and M9 are used as feed back and finally not used at all the opposite of Soden H. Edited May 15, 2016 by Doc Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soden Posted May 15, 2016 Share #399 Posted May 15, 2016 In talking about High Fidelity , it's the same fight (image and music) ie the "quality" in reproduction and the faithfulness, I prefer now by far my M7 or my MP No comparison and without appeal for me http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/258680-turntable-recommendations/page-2 I said that because my M8 and M9 are used as feed back and finally not used at all the opposite of Soden H. I wish what you say wasn't true. I love film. There is nothing more relaxing than shooting nature with an 1914 Graflex 4X5 and spending the evening with rodinal, but people don't seem to want to wait for me to get it the way I want it. They want it now, on their iPhone. My compromise is my Monochrom, sometimes they must have color. Such barbarians, color argh... So I have a M240 and a M246... such as life... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share #400 Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) I wish what you say wasn't true. I love film. There is nothing more relaxing than shooting nature with an 1914 Graflex 4X5 and spending the evening with rodinal, but people don't seem to want to wait for me to get it the way I want it. They want it now, on their iPhone. My compromise is my Monochrom, sometimes they must have color. Such barbarians, color argh... So I have a M240 and a M246... such as life... Soden, about the MM https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.summilux.net%2Fforums%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D10%26t%3D51356&edit-text= About the music I play piano and I often go to the concert yes I am lucky believe me , all my CD are now in the closet and I only listen to vinyl records Such is life, everyone benefits from what they thankfully I have made my choice and it will be no return ! My 2 M digit for the practice immediately but less and less , I use my iPhone cheaper soon a Huawei... About the M7 , what a pleasure to shoot with a mechanical and optical rangefinder and get faithful pictures color as b&w , not "smoothed" pixels pictures ! it seems that there are who likes electronic rangefinders ! Someone who exclusively have Leica not other brands Best Henry Edited May 15, 2016 by Doc Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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