pico Posted September 29, 2014 Share #221 Posted September 29, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Apparently, Leica will fit a normal threaded shutter release for me. Leica should make that so with every model. What were they thinking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarkP Posted September 30, 2014 Share #222 Posted September 30, 2014 Leica should make that so with every model. What were they thinking? That Audi know more about cameras than Leica do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 30, 2014 Share #223 Posted September 30, 2014 Leica should make that so with every model. What were they thinking? I think Leica should stop supporting those cable releases and should add electrical ones instead. After all, the release on the camera is a mere electrical contact, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 30, 2014 Share #224 Posted September 30, 2014 Philipp, Totally agree with you. I had electrical releases on all my Contax SLR’s from 1982 onwards and very good they were. You could put things like a sequencer on, for time lapse photography (I had the 250 shot bulk film back for my RTS2). The other thing that I think they should have put on or at least left on, is the EVF socket, so that you can use non-RF coupled lenses. This opens up a whole new world of lenses to the body. I am using non-RF coupled lenses about 40% of the time on my M240, zooms, fish-eyes, telephotos, tilt/shift etc. It is not as if you would be compelled to use it. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted September 30, 2014 Share #225 Posted September 30, 2014 I think Leica should stop supporting those cable releases and should add electrical ones instead. After all, the release on the camera is a mere electrical contact, anyway. It may be a mere electrical contact but it is yet another cable/remote release that needs to be carried and the price Leica will charge won't be 'mere'. If they haven't got the sense to realise Leica owners may have more than one type of Leica camera, such as a film body, they will have completely lost the plot regarding 'system' cameras. With that sort of thinking, and support, it won't be long before every accessory is dedicated to only one model of camera and needs to be bought all over again each time a new body is released. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 30, 2014 Share #226 Posted September 30, 2014 The Digilux 2 used to have an electrical cable release consisting of an ordinary jack, a two contact switch and, of course, a length of cable with three leads. Time required for self assembly about twenty minutes if you're slow witted and all thumbs like yours truly. They just should use a commonly available type of plug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted September 30, 2014 Share #227 Posted September 30, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Digilux 2 used to have an electrical cable release consisting of an ordinary jack, a two contact switch and, of course, a length of cable with three leads. Time required for self assembly about twenty minutes if you're slow witted and all thumbs like yours truly. . I think you mean the Panasonic LC1, and given Panasonic don't have a long history of manufacturing cameras they don't have a camera 'system' to worry about when designing their products which are all digital and electronics' based. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 30, 2014 Share #228 Posted September 30, 2014 Given that you need filters of so many different sizes, I can not quite get worked up about having to buy two different cable releases if they provide me with the necessary function. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted September 30, 2014 Share #229 Posted September 30, 2014 Philipp, Totally agree with you. I had electrical releases on all my Contax SLR’s from 1982 onwards and very good they were. You could put things like a sequencer on, for time lapse photography (I had the 250 shot bulk film back for my RTS2). The other thing that I think they should have put on or at least left on, is the EVF socket, so that you can use non-RF coupled lenses. This opens up a whole new world of lenses to the body. I am using non-RF coupled lenses about 40% of the time on my M240, zooms, fish-eyes, telephotos, tilt/shift etc. It is not as if you would be compelled to use it. Wilson The problem here is that you're trying to make the M60 a practical camera, and that is evidently not its purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 30, 2014 Share #230 Posted September 30, 2014 The other thing that I think they should have put on or at least left on, is the EVF socket, so that you can use non-RF coupled lenses. This opens up a whole new world of lenses to the body. I am using non-RF coupled lenses about 40% of the time on my M240, zooms, fish-eyes, telephotos, tilt/shift etc. I think that would miss the point of the M 60 (and IMO the M system in general). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 30, 2014 Share #231 Posted September 30, 2014 Given that you need filters of so many different sizes, I can not quite get worked up about having to buy two different cable releases if they provide me with the necessary function. There is nothing wrong with the standard threaded cable release that needs to be fixed by changing to some dedicated nerdy accessory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted September 30, 2014 Share #232 Posted September 30, 2014 Yes there is. It's too short. Should be wireless - Bluetooth with a phone app, say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 30, 2014 Share #233 Posted September 30, 2014 Yes there is. It's too short. Should be wireless - Bluetooth with a phone app, say. I assume you are joking. Otherwise, bluetooth is just the kind of nerdy crap that Leica have done well to avoid until more recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 30, 2014 Share #234 Posted September 30, 2014 Yes there is. It's too short. Should be wireless - Bluetooth with a phone app, say. agree your phone is always on you, why carry extra (e.g. cable release) I have this feeling that legacy users are trying to turn a digital camera into a film camera. I say use a M2-7 and a M240 and be happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted September 30, 2014 Share #235 Posted September 30, 2014 I honestly can't recall the last time I used a cable release, and I never owned an electronic remote release for any camera. Modern SLR's and dSLR's have a soft enough release that I find when the camera is on a tripod I can press it with my finger (not holding onto the camera) and get just as shake-free results as with a cable. I was always able to do that with my M4 also. And then there's always the selftimer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 30, 2014 Share #236 Posted September 30, 2014 I honestly can't recall the last time I used a cable release [...] After I pared down all mine to the best, I'm left with a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted September 30, 2014 Share #237 Posted September 30, 2014 I honestly can't recall the last time I used a cable release, and I never owned an electronic remote release for any camera. Modern SLR's and dSLR's have a soft enough release that I find when the camera is on a tripod I can press it with my finger (not holding onto the camera) and get just as shake-free results as with a cable. I was always able to do that with my M4 also. And then there's always the selftimer. Depending on your style, a cable release can have many advantages. When timing matters a self-timer is no answer, obviously, and pressing with your finger is not as shake-free as a remote release, and although you can get away with it with care, it somewhat reduces the benefit of a tripod. I also like the fact that with a tripod set-up and a cable release at the ready, it can be much easier to engage with the subject naturally (or be ignored in a more natural way!) than it is when you are peering through the viewfinder. This obviously depends on the circumstances in which you are shooting but there are times when it can be a real benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 30, 2014 Share #238 Posted September 30, 2014 Well, I guess there's no surprise that some who like electronic remotes don't like this idea. For me, a cable release is almost always kicking around in the bottom of my bag - it doesn't require batteries, it doesn't need a network, software compatibility, viruses and malware don't affect them, and you don't get those moments you get with Bluetooth where for no apparent reason, it just doesn't work! It operates just like it says on the box, and there's no risk at all that you will move the camera as you press the shutter. If I'm going to press the shutter, I see little point in using a tripod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted September 30, 2014 Share #239 Posted September 30, 2014 The problem here is that you're trying to make the M60 a practical camera, and that is evidently not its purpose. That rather looks like a conclusion looking for an argument. What would be more compelling would be to disregard the price and the white gloves (and the Audi design, if you prefer), and look at the camera as a proposition. Actual use and efficacy is not necessarily defined by marketing purpose ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 30, 2014 Share #240 Posted September 30, 2014 [... snip good stuff ...]It operates just like it says on the box, and there's no risk at all that you will move the camera as you press the shutter. Some cable releases will tend to move the camera - those with short, plastic covered cables. I am particularly sensitive to quality of cable releases having, like many, including John, used LF. I also tend to lose them! . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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