mmradman Posted September 9, 2014 Share #81 Posted September 9, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) With current technology yes, but things have a tendency to get smaller and thinner as time goes by. Maybe my idea can be implemented on the M16. Not another gun reference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 9, 2014 Posted September 9, 2014 Hi mmradman, Take a look here Why would anyone want a Leica with no screen?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
enboe Posted September 14, 2014 Share #82 Posted September 14, 2014 The weakest link for us left-eyed M8 hacks is the back screen. Nose prints to continually clean. Screen covers to scratch, requiring the sapphire screen cover variants. "Coffee stains" between the cover and the LCD. LCD's that go dead without spare parts available. In the list of camera parts, the LCD is the weakest link, although the CCD or CMOS chip has a limited vendor base, as do the special purpose processing chips. LED's and mechanical parts are much more producible. This is why the film M situation is so much more diverse for repair options. I remember putting together a post long ago on how you could use the top LCD on the M8 to control, most major functions. Two 7-segment digits and to buttons, forward and select, was all you needed for all essential M8 sub-menus. Simplify or drop options, and the screen and buttons can disappear altogether, although I would like some type of frame counter. Perhaps the viewfinder LEDs. Do I advocate for dropping screens altogether - absolutely not. They are useful for reasons included elsewhere in the thread, just not absolutely essential - just ask any film shooter. Your experience and shooting style may vary. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted September 14, 2014 Share #83 Posted September 14, 2014 Yes, we left eyed users are an ignored species - how about a limited edition M-L Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted September 16, 2014 Share #84 Posted September 16, 2014 I love this M60. It is really beautiful. Lovely. Why a "limited edition"? Please, make it normal edition at normal prices !!!! Photographers can't pay 15,000 euros. Collectors is a different thing. I will offer Leica a replacement: my M(240) and a few bucks in exchange for a new M60 My opinion on this camera is... yes! It is a brave concept and a wonderful design. Only Leica does this. I would love having one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 16, 2014 Share #85 Posted September 16, 2014 Please, make it normal edition at normal prices !!!! Photographers can't pay 15,000 euros. Collectors is a different thing. I will offer Leica a replacement: my M(240) and a few bucks in exchange for a new M60 From an aesthetic point of view it looks a little too much like the titanium M9 for my taste but I like the idea of it. As far as price goes, it does also include a 35 Summilux so it's 'only' priced at a 35% or so premium over normal RRP for an M-P and 35 Summilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted September 16, 2014 Share #86 Posted September 16, 2014 BRAVO Leica! This is everything I love about Leica. This is gutsy and ground breaking and the sort of bold action that the world could do with more of. They NEED to make it a standard edition. This is the way photography should be, IMO. It is perfect in every way, drop dead gorgeous and I want it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted September 16, 2014 Share #87 Posted September 16, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) The right camera for the right person, but not for me. I assume it will be very expensive. Interesting to see whether it becomes a standard production model in the future but I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted September 16, 2014 Share #88 Posted September 16, 2014 The right camera for the right person, but not for me.I assume it will be very expensive. You pay a lot more for less - Euro 15000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted September 16, 2014 Share #89 Posted September 16, 2014 I'm awaiting specifics but I have to say, at this point I am very tempted by it. I can't help but feel they should have incorporated a kelvin wheel for white balance into the back of it though…. I'm surprised that it's £3,500 more than the standard edition with 35 Summilux. I'm not even going to pretend I'm not just plain mad, but I think that is reasonable in Leica terms and I'm genuinely surprised, all things considered, given it's a scarcity, limited nature and a landmark camera. It would send my OCD compulsions mad and bug me to hell that I don't have a complete matching set of lenses though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 16, 2014 Share #90 Posted September 16, 2014 Great, I assume the internal light meter still works as before ? The functionality of this is pretty much all I use, other than a quick sneak at the 1s show of the histogram if I'm being lazy with careful consideration of the light meter. Please remove the 'A' as well I guess the colour temp is only relevant for JPG's ? Now Leica, humour me, put it in a MP (Not M240P) case and offer the CCD sensor as an option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted September 16, 2014 Share #91 Posted September 16, 2014 I'm awaiting specifics but I have to say, at this point I am very tempted by it. I can't help but feel they should have incorporated a kelvin wheel for white balance into the back of it though…. Not necessary: the camera is RAW only so you can set white balance when "developing". Kudos to Leica: they seem to have omitted the frame countdown and battery indicator as well as the monitor and strap lugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted September 16, 2014 Share #92 Posted September 16, 2014 Remove the screen, fine, there were a number of fans lusting for that. But they had absolutely no mandate to remove the screw which has been an iconic expression of Leica magic ever since the introduction of the M - P. It's very distraughtening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted September 16, 2014 Share #93 Posted September 16, 2014 Kudos to Leica: they seem to have omitted the frame countdown and battery indicator as well as the monitor and strap lugs. Yes, I'm not sure Leica have thought this through properly unless they think the M60 will never be actually used. Is there any indication how you might format a card? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted September 16, 2014 Share #94 Posted September 16, 2014 Yes, I'm not sure Leica have thought this through properly unless they think the M60 will never be actually used. Is there any indication how you might format a card? Of course they have - very carefully. You carry a MacBook Pro in your satchel or backpack, but it means you have a nice sleek minimalist digital camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted September 16, 2014 Share #95 Posted September 16, 2014 I only ever format after I download a card to a computer so that is not a big issue for me especially with a 32 or 64GB card. I don't use a strap anyway and I'm sure there is some sort of battery indicator. I would need it to work with the multifunction grip for a tethered connection at times though, but the more I think about it the more I like it as an additional body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted September 16, 2014 Share #96 Posted September 16, 2014 It feels like more of an expression of an idea than a fully functional camera. I can't see what advantages it offers over an M although I understand why some people will find the idea attractive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted September 16, 2014 Share #97 Posted September 16, 2014 Because it has film See M60 Hey hey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 16, 2014 Share #98 Posted September 16, 2014 It's a pity, that the new M edition 60 is just produced in a small batch. A day ago we were discussing what a camera without a screen would look like. Now it appears, that Leica has listened to us. Can we really do without the screen? As an MP user, it would not be so difficult, but what about the digital camera user. Can he make the turn around? These a exiting times! Maybe time for a Monochrom without screen? Leica M Edition 60 // Leica M // Fotografie - Leica Camera AG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coz Posted September 16, 2014 Share #99 Posted September 16, 2014 The video on their website shows it with a half case that has straps so I assume that's included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdriceman Posted September 16, 2014 Share #100 Posted September 16, 2014 BRAVO Leica! This is everything I love about Leica. This is gutsy and ground breaking and the sort of bold action that the world could do with more of. They NEED to make it a standard edition. This is the way photography should be, IMO. It is perfect in every way, drop dead gorgeous and I want it. Gutsy? They took an off the shelf M, removed parts, gave Audi a little free advertising to create the shell, then with a straight face, added a few thousand dollars to the price, called it a special edition and issued a press release. Virtually no risk for Leica on this one. I don't have an issue with it, good for them. But what I would have liked to see if they were going to do this is to make it $1,000-$2,000 less than the M. It would at least make me think about getting one instead of just ignoring or shutting off my LCD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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