semi-ambivalent Posted September 4, 2014 Share #41 Â Posted September 4, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have been using 35 and 50 forever, and prefer 50. If I could save money by buying a non-interchangeable M with a fixed 50mm Summilux, I would. :-) Â What the M-E should morph into, only with a Summarit and a substantially lower price. Make it a gateway drug and not a paean to a past model. (I'm aware of the support for the CCD look but if you want it going forward it's going to have to be via software. Can't believe Leica can support three sensor lines forever. And I've never been wrong... Â s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 Hi semi-ambivalent, Take a look here Summilux FLE 35 vs 50 ASPH 1.4. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
colonel Posted September 4, 2014 Share #42  Posted September 4, 2014 What a great new idea for Leica, I have a suggestion for how it could would:  http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/cyber-shot-compact-cameras/dsc-rx1-rx1r  Hey, wait a minute .... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted September 4, 2014 Share #43  Posted September 4, 2014 What the M-E should morph into, only with a Summarit and a substantially lower price. Make it a gateway drug and not a paean to a past model. (I'm aware of the support for the CCD look but if you want it going forward it's going to have to be via software. Can't believe Leica can support three sensor lines forever. And I've never been wrong...    s-a   Isn't that kind of what they did with the X1/X2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted September 4, 2014 Share #44 Â Posted September 4, 2014 Isn't that kind of what they did with the X1/X2? Â I don't follow the X line-up so I checked them out. Didn't see a single OVF/RF. Can it be an M without one of those? If you're going to pull new users in to what I'd bet most think of as 'Leica' you have to duplicate more than just the logo. If you talk about your savvy, discerning customers shouldn't you address them as such? There are only a few M models; the cheapest is over US$5400. Â s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted September 4, 2014 Share #45  Posted September 4, 2014 I don't follow the X line-up so I checked them out. Didn't see a single OVF/RF. Can it be an M without one of those? If you're going to pull new users in to what I'd bet most think of as 'Leica' you have to duplicate more than just the logo. If you talk about your savvy, discerning customers shouldn't you address them as such? There are only a few M models; the cheapest is over US$5400.   s-a   Can it be an M without an interchangeable lens, though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted September 4, 2014 Share #46 Â Posted September 4, 2014 Can it be an M without an interchangeable lens, though? Â I don't know. I thought about that but I just don't know. If you're going to reduce pricing you've got to start somewhere. There's a good case that there's much less complexity in a lens mount than in e.g., an OVF/RF so ditch the OVF/RF. And people do buy Leica glass to use on other cameras so why punish the 'low-end' Leica buyer by denying them the additional lenses? Dang...checkmated. Â Perhaps the low-end Leica is the used market. A lengthier used-digital price history would be telling. Â s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninicholas Posted September 7, 2014 Share #47 Â Posted September 7, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) i have both plus a Noctilux f/0.95. Summilux 50 ASPH came first as planned, soon followed by Summilux 35 FLE as predicted and finally the Noctilux that i used to think i'll never ever get it. so, it's not a question of which but when because you will get it all very soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted September 9, 2014 Share #48  Posted September 9, 2014 Kai´s addition to this endless topic:  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freitz Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share #49  Posted September 9, 2014 Kai´s addition to this endless topic:  Ha Thanks I watched that earlier but went with the 35 FLE last week. Best focal length for me for a 1 lens solution. Will probably get the 50 eventually. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted September 9, 2014 Share #50 Â Posted September 9, 2014 i think you made the right choice. Someone else will tell you different ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freitz Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share #51 Â Posted September 9, 2014 i think you made the right choice. Someone else will tell you different ;-) Â Of course I made the right choice for the way I currently shoot. By the look of things I might have both in the end anyways. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted October 17, 2014 Share #52 Â Posted October 17, 2014 What does it mean FLE regarding the 35mm f1.4? I don't see any reference to FLE on the Leica website... And how to distinguish a FLE version from other versions of the same lens? Â Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indergaard Posted October 17, 2014 Share #53  Posted October 17, 2014 What does it mean FLE regarding the 35mm f1.4? I don't see any reference to FLE on the Leica website... And how to distinguish a FLE version from other versions of the same lens? Thanks.  FLE means Floating Lens Element. This almost eliminates focus shift. All 35mm Summilux 1.4 ASPH lenses with 11663 product ID number is an FLE lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted October 17, 2014 Share #54 Â Posted October 17, 2014 FLE means Floating Lens Element. This almost eliminates focus shift. All 35mm Summilux 1.4 ASPH lenses with 11663 product ID number is an FLE lens. Â Thanks! I've bought one today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freitz Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share #55 Â Posted October 18, 2014 Thanks! I've bought one today. Â I found my FLE to be a perfect all in one lens, and it seems sharper then the 50 1.4 but that could just be me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted October 18, 2014 Share #56 Â Posted October 18, 2014 And how to distinguish a FLE version from other versions of the same lens? Â I believe the old one reads ASPHERICAL vs new (FLE) ASPH on the front. See here http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2012/08/the-leica-35mm-f-1-4-summilux-aspherical-vs-asph-fle/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted October 18, 2014 Share #57 Â Posted October 18, 2014 I believe the old one reads ASPHERICAL vs new (FLE) ASPH on the front. See here http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2012/08/the-leica-35mm-f-1-4-summilux-aspherical-vs-asph-fle/ Â fwiw, that's the double ASPH which is a different lens altogether. Not many were made.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted October 18, 2014 Share #58 Â Posted October 18, 2014 I believe the old one reads ASPHERICAL vs new (FLE) ASPH on the front. See here http://www.reddotforum.com/content/2012/08/the-leica-35mm-f-1-4-summilux-aspherical-vs-asph-fle/ There is the Aspherical, the Asph, and the Asph FLE. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 18, 2014 Share #59 Â Posted October 18, 2014 What does it mean FLE regarding the 35mm f1.4? Â More detailed discussion here. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted October 18, 2014 Share #60 Â Posted October 18, 2014 I really don't get spending $7000 on an interchangeable-lens camera and then anguishing over which single lens to buy for it, but then I have years of experience shooting and know what focal lengths to buy without polling a bunch of albeit gracious and helpful strangers who don't know me or my shooting style/preferences. For the cost of a new 35/1.4 or 50/1.4 I could (and would) buy a 21/4 CV, 35/2 V.4 (or .3), 50/2 V.4 (or .3) and any one of the 90/2.8's. Â Â Sometimes I wish I could thank posts twice. I share entirely the sentiments expressed by bocaburger. Â I want to endorse v3 50 Summicron. It is a great lens (I have one from 1970), small, wonderful drawing, smooth but old-school out-of-focus rendering. And it looks very cool with the vented hood. Â As for 21 I would however try the new Ultron - I liked Abrahamsson's LHSA write-up on it and the fast aperture would be of real value to me as a film photographer. But I digress. Â P 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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