jaapv Posted June 24, 2014 Share #21 Posted June 24, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Come to think of it why should Leica go to the trouble enabling an EVF that they already found to be difficult to a camera in the last year and a bit of its production run when they have a good in.house one with a different interface? It would be for the next iteration of the M in my view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chito Posted June 24, 2014 Share #22 Posted June 24, 2014 If there's a new EVF it'll probably be an in house one so that people will stop buying Olympus EVFs.. So no VF-4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted June 25, 2014 Share #23 Posted June 25, 2014 Hi Jaap - didn't you know it was coming free with the new CCD based Leica ME with the battery and electronics from the M240? :D I`m all in on this one but don`t forget the new shutter and RF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlindstrom Posted June 25, 2014 Share #24 Posted June 25, 2014 Come to think of it why should Leica go to the trouble enabling an EVF that they already found to be difficult to a camera in the last year and a bit of its production run when they have a good in.house one with a different interface? It would be for the next iteration of the M in my view. Well, just one possible explanation comes to mind.. what if evf-2 production has stopped? ie. Olympus (or their contractor) has moved focus completely over to evf-4. Then this would be a stop-gap move from Leica until the next iteration of the M. //Juha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 25, 2014 Share #25 Posted June 25, 2014 Not that the EVF is made by Olympus... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsydaus Posted June 25, 2014 Share #26 Posted June 25, 2014 I'll believe it when I see it (the new firmware that is)! Gee I hope they aren't waiting until Photonika to release the new firmware are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted June 25, 2014 Share #27 Posted June 25, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not that the EVF is made by Olympus... Isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 25, 2014 Share #28 Posted June 25, 2014 No, made by Epson for both Olympus and Leica, in China. It explains at least part of the price difference. As a large customer, Olympus was able to negotiate a better price than small player Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted June 25, 2014 Share #29 Posted June 25, 2014 As a large customer, Olympus was able to negotiate a better price than small player Leica. Which you know for a fact or simply speculate about? The other theory is that Olympus had to pay higher prices for the EVF as it was developed for them and marketed when it was state of the art technology;) And the Saga continues that now as development costs and tools have been long amortized and old unsold (not to say obsolete) brite stock simply be Leica labeled Leica could negotiate a lower price per unit than the big player who no longer sells this outdated product. So much about manufacturing, costing, negotiations and speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 25, 2014 Share #30 Posted June 25, 2014 The Olympus finder and the Leica finder are only identical technically. They look a bit different, so it is not really possible to relabel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 25, 2014 Share #31 Posted June 25, 2014 Which you know for a fact or simply speculate about? The other theory is that Olympus had to pay higher prices for the EVF as it was developed for them and marketed when it was state of the art technology;)And the Saga continues that now as development costs and tools have been long amortized and old unsold (not to say obsolete) brite stock simply be Leica labeled Leica could negotiate a lower price per unit than the big player who no longer sells this outdated product. So much about manufacturing, costing, negotiations and speculation. Given the time scale Leica and Olympus must have been shopping at approximately the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 25, 2014 Share #32 Posted June 25, 2014 Given the time scale Leica and Olympus must have been shopping at approximately the same time. No sir. About a year and a half apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted June 25, 2014 Share #33 Posted June 25, 2014 It is inevitable that there will be a new EVF released at Photokina. I just bought the current version. For those who are longing for a new and improved EVF, your'e welcome. It's the least that I could do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 25, 2014 Share #34 Posted June 25, 2014 No sir. About a year and a half apart. Correct. But I would imagine the development time of the 240 is considerably longer than that off the Olympus XZ1, given the difference in camera and maker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted June 25, 2014 Share #35 Posted June 25, 2014 No, made by Epson for both Olympus and Leica, in China. It explains at least part of the price difference. As a large customer, Olympus was able to negotiate a better price than small player Leica. We don't know for sure that Oly negotiated a better price, but so what? Even if they paid identical prices to Epson for identical technology, wouldn't Leica charge more simply because the red dot carries a premium? Why would they behave other than as rational, profit making businesspeople? The T finder is better than the VF2 but has a unique interface making it unsuitable for a M but perhaps suitable for a M successor. Having said that I really hope they can technologically accomodate a better higher res finder (with eye detection) via a firmware update. A VF4 variant would be very welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 25, 2014 Share #36 Posted June 25, 2014 An EVF 4 would be nice, but as I understand it Leica tried it and could not get it to work on the 240. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted June 25, 2014 Share #37 Posted June 25, 2014 An EVF 4 would be nice, but as I understand it Leica tried it and could not get it to work on the 240. I fear there will never be enough horsepower under the bonnet to run a higher resolution EVF. With a more powerful processor in an uprated M .... maybe ...... but then that would be a new camera ..... Leica is a generation behind the leaders in the the electronic hardware and has relied on the RF, super image quality and unbeatable legacy lenses as a unique selling point ...... .... next time round I don't think anyone will put up with low FPS, slow power up, screen refresh, low res EVF or EVF lag .... so they will have to be as good or better than the competition ...... or people like me will be sticking to my old M .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Black Posted June 25, 2014 Share #38 Posted June 25, 2014 The poster's score is 0 for 1 thus far... auto ISO is coming post in December 2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted June 25, 2014 Share #39 Posted June 25, 2014 Yes, Leica is perpetually playing catchup in electronics. Their time to market and product cycle times are too long. The EVF situation would be enough for me not to buy an M Type 240 until Photokina at which point the future direction may be clearer. If it isn't, and EVF is important to you, I still wouldn't buy. In the meantime, I have bought a spare Olympus finder, just in case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted June 25, 2014 Share #40 Posted June 25, 2014 The poster's score is 0 for 1 thus far... auto ISO is coming post in December 2013. I'm sure he's not far out this time. Perhaps it's an EVF for the M9 instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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