icemanhk Posted April 11, 2014 Share #61 Posted April 11, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) That is quite amazing as the cracked sensor issue is well known and has been resolved (mostly speedily) by Leica by a guaranty sensor replacement in all other known cases. If you were in Paris you should have contacted Leica Solms and I am 100% convinced they would have had a loaner in your hands within 48 hours, as they always do in such cases. Lucky there is loaner in Europe. In Hong Kong, we have to wait for 6 months and nothing will be given except the paper of repair doc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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icemanhk Posted April 11, 2014 Share #62 Posted April 11, 2014 huckles, You are not alone. I received a DOA (dead on delivery) M240, my friend also got the same after a week. We are lucky because we can return them. Another friend got his M240 in last month, it worked during delivery. Then he just left it at home for trip in the next day of delivery. After he came back, the camera just keeps freezing no matter with or without SD card, a or m mode. He did charge the batttery to full, reset the camera, did everything we can do. Since he got the camera for 3 weeks already, he cannot return it even he never touch it. Now he has to send to repair and wait for weeks. I hope above cases can let you feel better, because you are not alone and you are not the most unlucky man. It is great to hear that there is an individual to take care pros in Wetzlar? How about the layman / ameture? Did they pay less than pros? Or they contribute less profit than others to Leica, so that their angry and complains can be ignored? I have been used leica for 20 years and never come to this point of angry. If there is any channel can tell our angry to leica, please do let us know. We are willing to tell them our disappointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apertur Posted April 11, 2014 Share #63 Posted April 11, 2014 My needed adjustment but was replaced because of faulty electronics with a new one. This had a faulty base plate and a line in the viewfinder. When it came back the sensor had some lines and hotpixel that needed mapping. With adjustments in between repairs I had the camera 3 months out of 12 at home. That is only the camera. I have similar stories in lenses. One was decentered (6 weeks) one needs adjustment as (6 unlucky attempts in Solms) one needed reassembly, they all needed adjustment right out of the box. I am really frustrated and am about to switch to Fuji. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justj Posted April 13, 2014 Share #64 Posted April 13, 2014 I am the unlucky ones as well. As I am new to Leica I thought that everything that doesn't work is all down to my lack of understanding of Leica camera. My camera will only work with LV on, when LV is off the shutter won't respond. The shutter speed of 1/4000 is not working, the fastest I can get is 1/3000. When using timer every picture is taken at 1/45s, doesn't matter what speed I chose. The bulb will only last 60s (I don't know if this is Leica's "feature" or not). When in continuous shooting mode the first picture often came out as top half expose correctly and bottom half completely washout. Most of time I have to take photo 3 times to get the right exposure as shown on the LV and sometimes it just won't happen. When I took the camera to Leica shop and ask what is wrong with my camera I was told that it is probably firmware issues. But the more I use it the more I am sure that something is seriously wrong with my camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 13, 2014 Share #65 Posted April 13, 2014 What you describe is certainly not a firmware issue. That sounds like a seriously confused camera. Return it, demand a refund and buy a good one in a shop that does not blather nonsense and, if needed, help you understand the operation of the camera. The 60 sec. max is indeed a limitation. The Live View is not an exposure meter, btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapids41 Posted April 14, 2014 Share #66 Posted April 14, 2014 No you are not alone. I slowly think that getting a working M-System with 3 lenses that are focusing spot on is really hard to get. After sending them 3 times to Solms/Wetzlar all was ok with my M9, but now with my M240 one lense is again out of focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 15, 2014 Share #67 Posted April 15, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) That is amazing. That there is a fault with a rangefinder on a camera is possible, although judging by the forum rather rare on the M. But that a camera fault would throw one lens out of adjustment and the other two not is quite impossible. And lenses do not go out of focus, once adjusted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapids41 Posted April 15, 2014 Share #68 Posted April 15, 2014 That is amazing. That there is a fault with a rangefinder on a camera is possible, although judging by the forum rather rare on the M. But that a camera fault would throw one lens out of adjustment and the other two not is quite impossible. And lenses do not go out of focus, once adjusted. I am thinking exactly the same. I didnt even testet my 35SLX on the new M after I checked the 50SLX and 90Summarit which are good. Now I think its still not in the range of tolerance anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 15, 2014 Share #69 Posted April 15, 2014 I assume that you mean the Summilux 35? In that case be careful with conclusions. That lens ( except the latest floating elements version) exhibits considerable focus shift when stopping down. If you need exact focusing outside the aperture it has been optimized for, better to use the EVF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapids41 Posted April 15, 2014 Share #70 Posted April 15, 2014 No its the FLE version and I didnt recordnized any focus shift with the lense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 15, 2014 Share #71 Posted April 15, 2014 It is indeed probably a matter of tolerances then. In your case I would just take a day off and drive over to Wetzlar to attend to the matter in person. It is just a 2 1/2 hour drive for you anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted April 16, 2014 Share #72 Posted April 16, 2014 That is amazing. That there is a fault with a rangefinder on a camera is possible, although judging by the forum rather rare on the M. But that a camera fault would throw one lens out of adjustment and the other two not is quite impossible. And lenses do not go out of focus, once adjusted. The other big variable in these situations is how the lens is used and tested and memory/impressions vs reliable comparative testing at different times. I'd suggest that very very few of us do that. I certainly don't .You tend to react if you notice focus fails in a specific situation or shoot and start investigating from there. But correctly calibrated lenses can change in focus accuracy in some instances. Wear can make the focus movement imprecise and of course impact can affect their accuracy too. Neither is a design or quality fault as such, just a fact of any real precision mechanical assembly. My Summilux M 50 ASPH did get loose through my mis-handling (I recall that you noticed it at the time in Germany) and was serviced to perfection and at no charge. Then about two years later was well out of adjustment from an unknown cause. Serviced to perfection again at significant cost, then I dropped it hard on my M and it has been serviced again. The adjustment with RF of my M is very very good indeed now. Fingers crossed it has not used up all of its lives now ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrh68uk Posted April 17, 2014 Share #73 Posted April 17, 2014 No you are not alone.I slowly think that getting a working M-System with 3 lenses that are focusing spot on is really hard to get. After sending them 3 times to Solms/Wetzlar all was ok with my M9, but now with my M240 one lense is again out of focus. It was relatively easy for me . All three lenses that went off with my M were adjusted and came back focusing perfectly well at all distances. Before this there were mixtures of constant front-focus, or OK at short distance but front focusing at long. If I were to be hyper critical, I'd say that my 50 'cron, wide open, has more in focus in front of the subject than behind (i.e., it's at the back portion of the in-focus zone) and my 35 'cron is the reverse of this. But this is not a real-world issue in the slightest as it's all matching well within tolerance. I can imagine, though, that if the RF were to be moved a tiny fraction either way, it might throw just one of the lenses out of acceptable range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapids41 Posted April 17, 2014 Share #74 Posted April 17, 2014 I know what you mean. My 50SLX I think is at the front portion of the focus zone, but thats ok, because my 90Summarit is spot on. I think front focus is not so bad as back focus in my opinion. P.S. My 35 SLX arrived in Wetzlar today. In two weeks I should have it back, with no back focus anymore I hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvin Posted April 21, 2014 Share #75 Posted April 21, 2014 I'm also from Canberra. I had mine for about two weeks before a horizontal line show up in every single photo. It was replaced and it's been working great since, finger crossed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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