AB007 Posted February 15, 2014 Share #61 Posted February 15, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have been using MRB625 Wein Cell 1.35v on my M5s and Leicaflexes. It works great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crow Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share #62 Posted February 16, 2014 Is there a job for the repair man to be done before changing to the wein cell, or are there not any problems like leakage and it is OK to substitute from one day to another? How can you be sure the light meter is metering exactly the same both on mercury and the wein cell batteries? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iedei Posted February 16, 2014 Share #63 Posted February 16, 2014 the M5 is easily serviceable. i have been able to get parts with no issue from Leica in the past. Don't listen to the internet 'gossip' about it. It is THE finest Leica ever made with really bespoke and unique parts. Sherry Krauter has many times said the M5 is possibly the finest camera Leica made-----so contact her if Leica is out of supply for anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share #64 Posted February 16, 2014 Sherry, Sherry baby...la,la,la,la,la I think I agree. It won me because of being the last Leica made in the old style of workmanship, plus the engraved logo the same way it used to be. First Leica I got my hands on was a IIIa, and loved it, the M5 has got something from the old school. I love it. I did even before buying it, having lots of people doubting it, I knew I had to try it. I also have the CL, also with a spot meter that I love. And I also love the spot meter on my OM2sp and OM4. Spot, I love. I like to be in charge when metering, I want to point the camera where ever i want, not letting it decide calculating the middle between dark and light tones. I know the M5's light meter is very sensitive, this is another one of those reasons that made me want it. Superb!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB007 Posted February 16, 2014 Share #65 Posted February 16, 2014 Is there a job for the repair man to be done before changing to the wein cell, or are there not any problems like leakage and it is OK to substitute from one day to another?How can you be sure the light meter is metering exactly the same both on mercury and the wein cell batteries? No modifications are required on M5 to use the Wein cell batteries. It was made as a replacement. Wein MRB625 Cell 1.35v Zinc-Air Battery W9901201 B&H Photo Video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share #66 Posted February 16, 2014 It is like a song to the ears. Since english is only my second language I don't hear the name Sherry very often. It is more often that I hear the song by Frankie Valli! Got another question regarding the use of M5. I know the Elmar C works OK with my CL. I also know that it may work well on the M5 regardless the Leica warning. Am I going to see any difference using a newer Elmarit M, at 4 or 5.6 aperture? How about the Summicron 90mm f2? If I process the pictures using a mediocre Durst M301 with a Nikon EL f4, will I be able to see any difference? Is it worth the extra bucks, on the M5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share #67 Posted February 19, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) They say the 135mm,f4, Tele-Elmar is a sharp lens. But it is difficult to focus with. How will I be able to overcome this problem on the M5, with a viewfiner magnifier or not ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
opton Posted February 19, 2014 Share #68 Posted February 19, 2014 Got another question regarding the use of M5. I know the Elmar C works OK with my CL. I also know that it may work well on the M5 regardless the Leica warning. ... I was also worrying about possible focus problems with the Elmar-C... After buying some alternative lenses that didn't work for me (for other reasons), I ended up buying one for a good price. What can I say - It came today and it's working perfectly on the M5. No difference in focusing compared to the Minolta CLE. I know that there are some people who had problems with focusing it on M cameras, but I think this lens is really worth trying it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB007 Posted February 20, 2014 Share #69 Posted February 20, 2014 They say the 135mm,f4, Tele-Elmar is a sharp lens.But it is difficult to focus with. How will I be able to overcome this problem on the M5, with a viewfiner magnifier or not ? I do not shoot 135mm on M bodies. It might help if you use the Leica Viewfinder Magnifier M 1.4x. There maybe cheaper non-Leica viewfinder magnifier in the market. I use the Leica 1.25x on my M bodies when I use 90mm or 105mm. Leica Camera AG - Photography - LEICA VIEWFINDER MAGNIFIER M 1.25x & 1.4x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted February 21, 2014 Share #70 Posted February 21, 2014 They say the 135mm,f4, Tele-Elmar is a sharp lens.But it is difficult to focus with. How will I be able to overcome this problem on the M5, with a viewfiner magnifier or not ? Tele-Elmar 4/135 is very sharp from f:4 (may be the best aperture to use this lens). To be safe you may use a magnifier with your M5 for near subjects (2m-4m). But for far away subjects, it's not necessary. The 2 index (n° 4 in scale) can help. See my post at #18 : I would use x1.4 with 135mm. Arnaud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share #71 Posted February 21, 2014 Question still goes the same: Is a non Leica VF magnifier any less accurate to focus with than a genuine one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted February 21, 2014 Share #72 Posted February 21, 2014 Question still goes the same:Is a non Leica VF magnifier any less accurate to focus with than a genuine one? I use the MegaPerls 1.35x magnifier, bought from a HK eBay vendor. Works ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share #73 Posted April 23, 2014 The lightmeter works fine when through the Summicron C 40. When I mount the Tele Elmarit then things become difficult. Meter doesn't read, 9 out of 10 times, only to start working again once through the 40mm f2 Summicron C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted April 23, 2014 Share #74 Posted April 23, 2014 (Copying here the response given in the thread of the same name, strangely located in digi-M section) Hello Crow, What exactly is happening to the meter? It can't be the focal length as such, but of course, the metering area relative to the subject is getting much smaller than with the 40mm. When metering so selectively — an area about the size of the rangefinder patch with a 90mm lens — you can end up with a very different reading compared to wider lenses, depending on the subject area measured (i.e. very bright or dark). Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share #75 Posted April 23, 2014 Hello there, it 's been a while since I last posted in this thread. I forgot that the word "film" was located at the end of the title, this I remember gave me a difficulty trying to locate the section where the M5 belonged. It was also difficult, not remembering the position of "film" Leicas, and the digi section of the forum doesn't start with Digital, it starts with the "M", hence Iwas confused. I don't know what is happening with the "through the Tele-Elm." metering. Strange, this is why I posted again, hopping to find the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted April 23, 2014 Share #76 Posted April 23, 2014 Well, a tentative answer is what I tried to provide above To rephrase the question I started with, what does the meter do when you mount the 90 Tele-Elmarit? Does it show different readings than when the 40 is mounted? Does it not work at all, meaning, show no readings? If it is different readings, perhaps the changed metering pattern (90 compared to 40) could explain it. If there is no reading, any kind of user error and mechanical disturbance should be explored. I don't own the 90 TE, but use three other 90s, the 135/4 TE and other stuff on the M5, without any problem with the metering cell. That would lead me to doubt that the lens as such causes the problem. I suppose that you are familiar with the M5 manual and related the 'does and don'ts'? (Like winding on to bring the metering arm into place, not touching the release button nor turning the camera into portrait position while metering?) Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share #77 Posted April 23, 2014 Unfortunately the camera came with a german manual, and yes I turned the camera vertically as the 90 TE is a portrait lens. Tried it again before I answered you, and it didn't do anything, needle stays at o of the horizontal line it is supposed to be moving along. Turning the aperture won't move the needle either. The Summicron C 40 now doesn't work either, I don't understand how it did yesterday. So this did it, holding the camera vertically while having advanced the film lever. How was I to know from a german manual! Now, is there a trick or do I pay another 50 euro out of my minimum wage? OR COULD IT BE THE BATTERIES? CAN'T CHECK TILL SUNDAY. I also placed the camera vertically inside my camera bag and realized with out reading anything regarding what you say the catalogue says. My instict was telling me to place it horizontally so I did two days ago, before posting on this forum. Took out the battery, placed it again, I've noticed in the past that doing so with any kind of battery allows for a few seconds worth of energy. Even tried it with the 90 Tele Elmarit, and the precious needle up and away moved freely till changing the aperture or speed made it meet with the other one forming an x like it is supposed to. I've ordered a little Leica CL and M5 Leica old handbook, the white one with the red letters, used so I hope all information is in it, but till it arrives and it should have by now, what is it again regarding holding the camera vertically? After taking a shot I place the rewinding knob next/close to the body, right? I can't leave it hanging diagonally like while the meter is reading, correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted April 23, 2014 Share #78 Posted April 23, 2014 Perhaps this is helpful: http://www.butkus.org/chinon/leica/leica_m5/leica_m5.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crow Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share #79 Posted April 23, 2014 Yeap, thanks, read on, just edited my previous post adding lots of relative and positive eventually conclusions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted April 23, 2014 Share #80 Posted April 23, 2014 crow, with pop's link you're on the right track. You can hold or carry or store the camera anyway you want, just not while metering Also note that (unlike the Leicaflex SL & SL2) the M5 does not switch on the meter via opening the rewind lever from its rest position, but through a full swing of the lever. In other words, for transport and storage, don't cock the shutter. As to batteries, that's another world, not explained in the manual since the batteries mentioned in there don't exist any longer (outside Russia at least). The ancient mercury cells lasted long, the new replacement silver oxid cells less so. But I didn't read through this thread and this matter is probably covered here and also in others. Enjoy the M5 even without batteries thanks to "sunny-16" or an external meter. Cheers, Alexander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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