earleygallery Posted December 23, 2013 Share #21 Posted December 23, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Bessa L doesn't have a viewfinder. It's like some of the screw mount Leica bodies, meant for use with only an optical finder. The 25 Skopar comes with a viewfinder. It's not rangefinder coupled anyway and has 3 click stops for zone focussing quickly without needing to look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sandro Posted December 23, 2013 Share #22 Posted December 23, 2013 Why not take a Leica CL and the 40mm lens with you? Very compact. Lex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted December 23, 2013 Share #23 Posted December 23, 2013 There is one [Mamiya 7] for sale locally, I'll go handle it and see what I think. The only time I've ever used one before was in a studio. I didn't really pay much attention to it and never thought of it as a outside camera, but I have seen them used successfully for street photography a few times. I have a Mamiya 7II and love it. But the lenses are f4 and f4.5 which may not be fast enough given some of the photography you want to do, although I should add that the lenses perform very nicely wide open. If you are interested in the 43mm or 50mm lens, you'll need to look into picking up the auxiliary viewfinder. Also, the maximum shutter speed is 1/500, which may or may not be a problem. If you're using flash, the good news is that the lenses have leaf shutters so will sync at any speed. Mamiya 7 metering is a bit eccentric. You'd need to become familiar with it or use a separate meter. Personally, I use a Sekonic, but I use a separate meter routinely, not just with this camera. Rereading the above, I fear that I sound a bit down on the camera. In fact, it is wonderful, but it has certain limitations that one must be aware of It's interesting that you don't think of it as an outdoor camera. I believe that the 7II is widely seen as, and used as, an outdoor and travel camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ola.fiske Posted December 23, 2013 Share #24 Posted December 23, 2013 I recommend a Leica MP, M7 or a M6 paired with a "Dual Range" summicron. Perfect combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. B Posted December 24, 2013 Share #25 Posted December 24, 2013 I would suggest the M6 or M6ttl with a 50mm summicron. Mr. B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted December 24, 2013 Share #26 Posted December 24, 2013 M4 and Summicron 35 IV with Gossen digisix, as light as a feather, always your friend (also for temperature, alarm and stopwatch); quick and easy for incident light. I would hesitate between the Elmar 50 and the cron 35, but in your bags it's easy to carry both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted December 24, 2013 Share #27 Posted December 24, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Take with you no more than you can easily carry at all times. Too much already. Film is a pain, buying, carrying ,processing, x ray protection, you name it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted December 24, 2013 Share #28 Posted December 24, 2013 This seems to be another one of those rather pointless threads where the OP seems to have all the answers in advance. My instincts tell me an M2 and 35mm Summicron, or M6 and 28mm Elmarit would be the most practical kits. I was looking for suggestions of M and lens combinations. It sounds as if you are experienced enough to know which focal length you prefer – it's not something any of us can meaningfully advise on. In truth (as I'm sure you know) you will not go wrong with any Leica M film body and any Leica M lens. They are all good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted December 24, 2013 Share #29 Posted December 24, 2013 Just in case anyone is considering film cameras for travel that would sit well with an M and a few lenses, Fujifilm UK have just given me a dual format GF670W to use on extended loan and testing. First impressions, assuming you can live with a fixed moderate wide lens on either 6x7 or 6x6 rangefinders (I can and do), are that this is good choice. Very good, in fact. Fujinon EBC lenses are second to none. The viewfinder puts many other rangefinders to shame, including the Mamiya 6&7(11) and Fuji GSW690111 and it's coat pocketable. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/218828-one-m-one-lens/?do=findComment&comment=2494131'>More sharing options...
E.M Posted December 24, 2013 Share #30 Posted December 24, 2013 M6 , classic or ttl , I think the shutterspeeddial on the classic has the same orientation as the FM2 . Do you have a fast lens in your system , I'd take a 35 lux asph , especially if you're doing nightshots . Ciao ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted December 24, 2013 Share #31 Posted December 24, 2013 Take with you no more than you can easily carry at all times. Too much already. Film is a pain, buying, carrying ,processing, x ray protection, you name it. Ansel Adams said: take the heaviest camera you can carry. But I agree: I would trade in the whole collection for an MM and an M9 or a Sony FF and a few lenses that would fit in the Hadley Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redge Posted December 24, 2013 Share #32 Posted December 24, 2013 Just in case anyone is considering film cameras for travel that would sit well with an M and a few lenses, Fujifilm UK have just given me a dual format GF670W to use on extended loan and testing. First impressions, assuming you can live with a fixed moderate wide lens on either 6x7 or 6x6 rangefinders (I can and do), are that this is good choice. Very good, in fact. Fujinon EBC lenses are second to none. The viewfinder puts many other rangefinders to shame, including the Mamiya 6&7(11) and Fuji GSW690111 and it's coat pocketable. Is this the same camera as the Bessa III 667W? The Fuji doesn't appear to be available in the U.S., but the Bessa is, for $3000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted December 24, 2013 Share #33 Posted December 24, 2013 Is this the same camera as the Bessa III 667W? The Fuji doesn't appear to be available in the U.S., but the Bessa is, for $3000. Yes, as are the Fuji GF670 and Bessa III. The GF670W (or Bessa III 667W) is a better camera than a Mamiya 7(11) with 50mm lens, imo, and considerably smaller and more compact than a Fuji GSW690III. Both variants are expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsilly Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share #34 Posted December 25, 2013 Just in case anyone is considering film cameras for travel that would sit well with an M and a few lenses, Fujifilm UK have just given me a dual format GF670W to use on extended loan and testing. First impressions, assuming you can live with a fixed moderate wide lens on either 6x7 or 6x6 rangefinders (I can and do), are that this is good choice. Very good, in fact. Fujinon EBC lenses are second to none. The viewfinder puts many other rangefinders to shame, including the Mamiya 6&7(11) and Fuji GSW690111 and it's coat pocketable. That looks like a great camera, I've only seen those Fujis in videos and never in person. I wouldn't really know the first place to go to try one. Where in the UK would you find one? I keep my Hasselblad for the image quality (and the way people don't seem to mind you shooting them on it), but I could easily give it up for something with easier handling and snappier focus. In good light it's great because I can just zone focus, but when I'm using a wide aperture you really have to take your time with it. A good medium format rangefinder would be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted December 25, 2013 Share #35 Posted December 25, 2013 ...and the way people don't seem to mind you shooting them on it.... Rolleiflex TLR or M aren't bad either. I'm curious how you intend to travel with these two big Camerabags. Which is not to say that I do not fully respect people's sillyness in choosing the tools they feel good with and brings them in the right mood to make good images Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted December 25, 2013 Share #36 Posted December 25, 2013 That looks like a great camera, I've only seen those Fujis in videos and never in person. I wouldn't really know the first place to go to try one. Where in the UK would you find one? Robert White in Dorset advertise them and they have a couple of videos explaining the operation of the cameras on You Tube. The Voigtlander Bessa III is the same camera with a black finish. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJH Posted December 25, 2013 Share #37 Posted December 25, 2013 Ffordes also sell the silver Fuji version, same price about £2K. One would have to be a lover of 28mm equivalent though I guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsilly Posted December 25, 2013 Author Share #38 Posted December 25, 2013 Ffordes also sell the silver Fuji version, same price about £2K. One would have to be a lover of 28mm equivalent though I guess? It's my preferred focal length and the one I'm most used to shooting. Though I think £2,000 is a little more then I'd want to spend on a fixed lens medium format rangefinder. I know they are easier to get hold of in Asia and cheaper, so it's something I might look into while I'm over there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bephoto Posted December 25, 2013 Share #39 Posted December 25, 2013 M6 or MP(current) with a 35Cron ASPH. you are good to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
findranger Posted December 25, 2013 Share #40 Posted December 25, 2013 I would say M6+Cron 35mm. You cant go wrong with this combo. Well, you actually can. It depends on what you want to achieve. I suggest using different focal lenghs and read a lot of books and decide then. You won't achieve Winograndish results with a 35 for instance. I highly recommend the M4-P instead of the M6. Same thing minus the meter. You learn A LOT if you use handheld meters and sunny16. It pays off to go the hard way here, trust me. And you will have more correct exposures after some months of practice than the meter will give you. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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