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Sorry, but this is false information for the type 240. Maximum exposure for Type 240 is 60 seconds no matter what you do. There is no T-function. But I reckon this is true for at least M8.2...

 

Well ... I just tried to do what the manual instructs -- and it doesn't work. So, there is a BUG in the software and Leica will just have to fix it, if in fact they think they have built it to give T when using the timer in B-setting.

 

Leica, R U listening?

 

Regards to all, Bill

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Sorry, but this is false information for the type 240. Maximum exposure for Type 240 is 60 seconds no matter what you do. There is no T-function. But I reckon this is true for at least M8.2...

 

60 sec, in some extreme situations, I agree that can be too short... but do exist digital cameras with a REAL T mode ? I don't know... but tend to think that with any electronics device it would be problematic not to give a hardware limitation to a theorical "infinite" exposure... it could cause some odd damaging if unproperly used (I ahve never tried, but do wonder if even in the sensor cleaning mode the shutter can be left opened "all the time I like").

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60 sec, in some extreme situations, I agree that can be too short... but do exist digital cameras with a REAL T mode ? I don't know... but tend to think that with any electronics device it would be problematic not to give a hardware limitation to a theorical "infinite" exposure... it could cause some odd damaging if unproperly used (I ahve never tried, but do wonder if even in the sensor cleaning mode the shutter can be left opened "all the time I like").

 

I don't know why not, with the proviso that dark current will eventually overwhelm the image. Just sitting there letting the photodiodes collect photons and the wells fill up doesn't use much energy, especially compared to multiplexing (or shifting, in the case of CCDs) performing the ADC function, and storing the data. If you really wanted to save power, you could turn off all the clocks except for whatever's watching for the release to be pressed again.

 

However, with digital cameras, that's not the best way to get a low-noise image. You want to make repeated photographs with short times in between them, and combine them in post in a way that averages out the frame-variant noise, and lets you subtract out the frame-invariant noise. The best way to do that is with an intervalometer. Nikons and Canons have them built in. Sonys and Leicas don't. But you can add an external one and get just as good results.

 

Jim

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I wonder for us wide angle lovers if it would it be possible to a implement a lazy-man's color shift correction profile for ooc jpeg? Think something like the existing manual WB-Gray card "override", fused with something not too dissimilar to CornerFix/Flatfield.

For raw I think it's obvious what you can or have to do.

(For the time being I'm sticking to my M8)

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I wonder for us wide angle lovers if it would it be possible to a implement a lazy-man's color shift correction profile for ooc jpeg? Think something like the existing manual WB-Gray card "override", fused with something not too dissimilar to CornerFix/Flatfield.

 

For raw I think it's obvious what you can or have to do.

 

(For the time being I'm sticking to my M8)

 

 

That's like asking for prints coming out of your Leica... Got to develop your negatives first ;) don't use OOC JPEG ;)

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Hi!

Here my wishlist:

- thinner body

- thinner body

- thinner body

- 35 MP

- lowest ISO: 50, or digital grayfilter

- much better EVF

- les pattern noise (Bildrauschen) at higher ISO

- more memory space

- a version with winding by hand and without screen if full control by EVF

- improved dust protection

- focusindicator by grün/red light in LV (f.e. in the middle of the screen).

Could be more efficiently than peaking.

- a 200mm Summicron with good handling (not like 2/90!)

- no video, no autofocus

- maintain the wanderfully rangefinder (Messsucher).

- maintain the beautifully red Leica dot. :)

Regards

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I have the the answer. After a few pages, I am convinced not to buy a 240 even at the current reduced price. Quit reading after 5 minutes of listening to people complain.

 

The only thing that really irks me is the dead pixel red line & a service call. Totally ridiculous. At least give us a CD with a remapping function or give us something LR or ACR can fix .

 

There are thinner M cameras with no buttons or programs. We used them successfully for decades.

 

I do wish they would get off the soccer mom cameras, T , X, X2 or whatever they are called. We all know they are not Leica quality. Reminds me of the Cadillac Cimmeron from 1980`s, just a Chevy with leather seat.

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People who post in forums are usually whiners, although this forum is better then most.

 

Folk enjoying the product are not posting or are using the photo forum. There are a few nutters like me who occasionally post our positive impressions.

 

Note that pixel issues on the M240 are very very rare and yes they have probably all posted here ....

 

The M240 is the best camera I have ever used, period .... Everything else is tittle-tattle as we say in the UK

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That's like asking for prints coming out of your Leica... Got to develop your negatives first ;) don't use OOC JPEG ;)

 

 

 

Well, close. There are plenty of printers that you can stick your SD card into.

 

 

Well as a lazy-man's solution as aforementioned. In more concrete terms to pass on a "passable" copy to my SWMBO who don't care for me dilly dallying with PP.

 

Call her a "printer with an SD card slot" if you like - I certainly wouldn't dare! ;-)

 

Alas it's likely never going to be implemented by Leica so one can only dream.

 

For the frames I want to keep I will bring out the full toolbox - no doubt.

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+1 many times.

 

When I got the M8, the bride said what's the big deal and I answered that it's the first time the camera has gotten out of the way.

 

More so for the M9.

 

Much more so for the M (240).

 

Plus, all my Leica lenses still work with the same auto-focus!

 

Regards to all, Bill

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Many have been saying for a decade at least now that video is about to replace photos, but I very much doubt this for the simple fact that a video of 2-3 minutes can be summed up, in a photograph, and looked at, in an instant.

 

Agreed. The loss of professional news photographers and competent editors is robbing us.

 

I do not ordinarily expose my dislikes, but the proliferation of slurry, loosely made, overly long amateur videos just piss me off to no end, and the majority are self-absorbed wastes of our time.

 

Edit:

 

Wait, I'm not thorough yet. The choice for some of our US on-line media to use incomprehensible fake British accent talking-head actors is deplorable, and an insult to British speaking.

 

I will stop here.

Carry on. :)

 

Perhaps this should be moved to Barnack's Bar.

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