edwardkaraa Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2581 Posted November 22, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I agree at this point. This has encouraged me to consider ordering the 55 f/1.8 FE and do the same against M240+50Lux. If that turns out similar then I'm 2/3 of the way to smaller, lighter, cheaper and amazingly a better carry round system. Bit shocked at how good it is. While the 35/2.8 is a very good lens, the 55/1.8 will be truly outstanding. My plans are starting to take shape and they're similar to yours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2582 Posted November 22, 2013 While the 35/2.8 is a very good lens, the 55/1.8 will be truly outstanding. My plans are starting to take shape and they're similar to yours Could be. Again I'll reserve judgement until I've shot with it. Steve Huff tends to indicate that it's 35FE > 55FE in his view. Also I really need to know when the 85 or similar is out and if it's Zeiss first. Even if the 55 beats the lux I'm still a lens short of my required trio. Maybe the good reception will adjust the investment flow / priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2583 Posted November 22, 2013 To my eyes, the A7r+FE combination seems to give the best results overall. At f/2.8 and f/4, the cron seems to have a weakness in the borders and corners on the M, and is completely unusable at those apertures on the A7r. Very illuminating test. Thanks again! Thanks, it appears to be that way, doesn't it? And a really big Thank You to dwbell for making the RAW images available! I am glad I ordered that winning combination! Patiently waiting for their arrival! So what do we already have pretty much ascertained will work on the A7R? Leica WATE Sony FE35Z2.8 Leica 75/2 presumably Leica 90/2.8 presumably I can't quite tell from Thomas' images whether the Leica 28/2.8 also makes the cut? Many thanks to Thomas Chen as well for his images indeed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2584 Posted November 22, 2013 Could be. Again I'll reserve judgement until I've shot with it. Steve Huff tends to indicate that it's 35FE > 55FE in his view. Also I really need to know when the 85 or similar is out and if it's Zeiss first. Even if the 55 beats the lux I'm still a lens short of my required trio. Maybe the good reception will adjust the investment flow / priority. According to all the available data, including Sony's own "calculated" MTF and real life samples, the 55 is the superior lens. If the rumors are true, the next lens will be a Zeiss 85/1.8. In the meanwhile any Leica M lens from 50 and above should perform well on the Sony with no smearing or color shading. Even if the 85/1.8 turns out to be stellar I'm not letting go easily of my Sonnar 85 ZM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2585 Posted November 22, 2013 Thanks, it appears to be that way, doesn't it?And a really big Thank You to dwbell for making the RAW images available! I am glad I ordered that winning combination! Patiently waiting for their arrival! So what do we already have pretty much ascertained will work on the A7R? Leica WATE Sony FE35Z2.8 Leica 75/2 presumably Leica 90/2.8 presumably I can't quite tell from Thomas' images whether the Leica 28/2.8 also makes the cut? Many thanks to Thomas Chen as well for his images indeed! No worries. From my side let me ask you to hold off on giving the 75/2 a thumbs up. I just haven't done enough with it for me to give it a yay or nay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2586 Posted November 22, 2013 This is like the anti- Leica but I just, very easily, connected my ipad to my A7R over a closed network and watched live view on the ipad, triggered the shutter, changed EV etc. I know some of you kids know all this, but CRIKEY this opens up some serious usefulness here! It was snappy performance too. Incredible. Edit - was it Alan thinking about the canon 17 TS lens for interiors? If so, this is like the camranger system for can ikon but in built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2587 Posted November 22, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) According to all the available data, including Sony's own "calculated" MTF and real life samples, the 55 is the superior lens. oh tell me it's true! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2588 Posted November 22, 2013 No worries. From my side let me ask you to hold off on giving the 75/2 a thumbs up. I just haven't done enough with it for me to give it a yay or nay. Thanks. Okay, however I recall having seen some impressive images of the 75/2 on A7R on the web. Nevertheless I am looking forward with increasing anticipation to your 75/2 images! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2589 Posted November 22, 2013 This is like the anti- Leica but I just, very easily, connected my ipad to my A7R over a closed network and watched live view on the ipad, triggered the shutter, changed EV etc. I know some of you kids know all this, but CRIKEY this opens up some serious usefulness here! It was snappy performance too. Incredible. Nice, isn't it? I have been shooting my D800E that way, completely controlled from my iPad! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2590 Posted November 22, 2013 Nice, isn't it?I have been shooting my D800E that way, completely controlled from my iPad! Oh yeah? Sweet. Coming from the still not finished M9 firmware this is light years away for the gnomes in Solms. This type of integration has enormous potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2591 Posted November 22, 2013 For your entertainment and to break the tension I posted a few images with - ta-ta: D800E + Noct Nikkor 58/1.2 - The GetDPI Photography Forums Of course, showing off another 36 MP sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2592 Posted November 22, 2013 Hot Damn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2593 Posted November 22, 2013 Oh yeah? Sweet. Coming from the still not finished M9 firmware this is light years away for the gnomes in Solms. This type of integration has enormous potential. I don't think I could have gotten this shot http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/nature-wildlife/272579-hairy-woodpecker-female.html if I had stood there with camera in hand! BTW, please note I used an about 50 years old Leitz lens. I wouldn't be amazed if the TE 135/4 also worked well on the A7R. I guess I will find out as soon as my A7R arrives, if not earlier. The TE 135/4 is readily available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trylab Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2594 Posted November 22, 2013 Hot Damn! Sony FE 55mm f/1.8 Zeiss Lens Sample Gallery - a set on Flickr A7r FE55/1.8 looks Hot Damn to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2595 Posted November 22, 2013 Sony FE 55mm f/1.8 Zeiss Lens Sample Gallery - a set on Flickr A7r FE55/1.8 looks Hot Damn to me Thanks. Not bad, not bad at all! I love having options and probably have to get another lens. But I will wait until this particular lens is readily available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2596 Posted November 22, 2013 Edit - was it Alan thinking about the canon 17 TS lens for interiors? If so, this is like the camranger system for can ikon but in built. Yes I am thinking of it as well as using my other TSE and PC lenses on it for the higher res. But I won't buy an A7r until there is C-1 and DXO support for the files... even if there is no C-1 tethering support. I have an unfounded hope that Canon will make a similar camera soon. I have been using the wifi on my Nex 6 and that is really slick. But I find tethering works well for interiors since the computer is generally very close to the camera and it has to transfer raw files quickly. I also have a USB wired connection between my Android phone and Canon cameras via DSLR controller. That gives a lot of capability, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D-Kraft.com Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2597 Posted November 22, 2013 Leica Tri Elmar 16-18-21mm f/4 ("WATE") @ 16mm @ f/8: Out-of-camera JPEG (16mm f/8): (Click on image to see other sizes) Same image developed from RAW with Adobe Camera Raw 8.3 RC1 and distortion profile (for Leica Tri Elmar 16mm) applied as well as vignette reduction: (Click on image to see other sizes) 100% crop (actual pixels) from center: 100% crop (actual pixels) from upper right edge: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D-Kraft.com Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2598 Posted November 22, 2013 Another shot at different weather&light conditions also 16mm f/8 with vignette reduction: As you can see, the WATE produces sharp edges at f/8. Color shift is negligible and only distinguishable 16mm in particular situations. The result at 18mm and 21mm as well as for other aperture settings (f/4 and f/5.6) can be found in this album: Leica WATE on Sony A7R - a set on Flickr It will be continously updated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2599 Posted November 22, 2013 Sony FE 55mm f/1.8 Zeiss Lens Sample Gallery - a set on Flickr A7r FE55/1.8 looks Hot Damn to me Argh damn you! Pre-ordered, coming end of Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted November 22, 2013 Share #2600 Posted November 22, 2013 Another shot at different weather&light conditions also 16mm f/8 with vignette reduction: As you can see, the WATE produces sharp edges at f/8. Color shift is negligible and only distinguishable 16mm in particular situations. The result at 18mm and 21mm as well as for other aperture settings (f/4 and f/5.6) can be found in this album: Leica WATE on Sony A7R - a set on Flickr It will be continously updated. Many thanks indeed. That's great! This looks really good to me, certainly much better than merely useable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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